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Autonotiv

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2,673 posts

246 months

Friday 2nd September 2005
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This may sound stupid,

But where can i buy Photoshop?
and what price would it be?

Cheers

James

Bodo

12,456 posts

288 months

Friday 2nd September 2005
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Photoshop is roughly £400 and is available in many online shops.

You can download and install a picture editing software for free though. It's called The GIMP and is available from www.gimp.org
Nothing in the same price range comes close to it.
Photoshop users say it's difficult to use, but then many expect that things must be similar to the Photoshop interface to be easy to use

thunderstruck

8,838 posts

304 months

Friday 2nd September 2005
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Autonotiv

Original Poster:

2,673 posts

246 months

Friday 2nd September 2005
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Think i will try the free download, worth a try.

£400.00 wow thats alot for a 15 year old lol.

well cheers anyway.

Bodo

12,456 posts

288 months

Friday 2nd September 2005
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thunderstruck said:

wedge girl said:
Try here
.amazon.co.uk/...



What's the diff between elements and CS?
The latter is 883% more expensive, but is 8.83+n times more use for a professional user
http://graphicssoft.about.com/cs/photoshop/f/elementscompare.htm said:

Some of the features in Photoshop that are not included in Photoshop Elements are:

* CMYK and LAB color modes
* More tools and features that work with high-bit (16-bit and 32-bit) images
* Combine multiple exposures to create high dynamic range (HDR) images
* Channels Palette
* Recording custom Actions (for batch processing)
* Adjustments: Curves, Color Balance, Match Color
* Layer Masks, Layer Comps, and Quick Mask mode
* Smart Objects, Smart Guides
* Lens Blur Filter, Smart Sharpen Filter, Lens Correction Filter
* Vanishing Point Tool, Extract Tool
* Pen tool and paths palette
* Some adjustment layers (curves, color balance, selective color, channel mixer)
* Editing History Log
* Text on a path, Font Previews, advanced text formatting
* Advanced Layer Style manipulation
* Advanced Color Management
* Advanced Web features and ImageReady (rollovers, slicing)
* Customizable tool presets, keyboard shortcuts, and menus
* In the features and tools that are shared, the Photoshop version usually offers more advanced options for fine tuning and control.

Bodo

12,456 posts

288 months

Friday 2nd September 2005
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More information from Wikipedia:
Wikipedia said:
Photoshop is generally considered the best image editing program for raster graphics, but it has the disadvantage of a high price. This has helped a number of competing graphics tools to become popular, some of which are extremely powerful such as The GIMP, which is free. In an attempt to recapture this lost market share, Adobe introduced a much less expensive program called Photoshop Elements that consists of Photoshop minus some of the high-end output capabilities. Consequently, Elements (currently at version 3) is useful for editing photos from consumer digital cameras and for doctoring images for the web but considerably less so for professional prepress work. Photoshop Elements retails for $99 USD MSRP, compared to Photoshop's retail price of $649 new, and about $150 for the upgrade version.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Photoshop
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIMP
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photoshop_Elements

Bodo

12,456 posts

288 months

Friday 2nd September 2005
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Autonotiv said:
Think i will try the free download, worth a try.

£400.00 wow thats alot for a 15 year old lol.

well cheers anyway.
James - it's worth a try, and don't give up, when you get stuck.
In case you use Microsoft Windows, you can download The Gimp for Windows here for easiest installation:
http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/

There are lots of tutorials online, when you want to dive into using The Gimp:
User manual
Basics
Red eye removal
Selective colour
Smart sharpening

leeb

1,074 posts

265 months

Saturday 3rd September 2005
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BUY photoshop????

I had a mate who was a pirate, whilst surfing and sailing the www somehow ended up accidentally downloading it as a trial version. he also found a magic 'patch' which fully activated it. i think in his world his time went backwards on his computer by a year or 2 and all of a sudden he was fully tooled up to edit anything he wanted.

dont see him anymore, but i think this is how he managed to save a £400

Disclaimer: personally i wouldnt know why you would download anything rather than buying it and i dont think its right

Autonotiv

Original Poster:

2,673 posts

246 months

Saturday 3rd September 2005
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Well cheers for all the advice guys, an girls.

I don't see the point in buying Photoshop, as i'm not a pro photographer, so it would not get much use.
But i may try the gimp.


monkeyhanger

9,266 posts

264 months

Saturday 3rd September 2005
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If you have "some" cash to spend Paintshop Pro is worth a look.

Most of the functionality of PS for a fraction of the price.

>> Edited by monkeyhanger on Saturday 3rd September 19:41

Autonotiv

Original Poster:

2,673 posts

246 months

Saturday 3rd September 2005
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Now there's an idea, i will look in to it.
Do you have paintshop pro?
If so is it any good?

Cheers

James

-DeaDLocK-

3,368 posts

273 months

Saturday 3rd September 2005
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If you find yourself an old version of Photoshop (ANY version, though it is a lot easier if you have at least 5.5), you qualify for the Photoshop CS2 upgrade at about £150. A lot cheaper than the £400 standalone price that's for sure...

HankScorpio

715 posts

259 months

Saturday 3rd September 2005
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Keep an eye on the computer and photo mags with cover discs too, I've got a fully licensed copy of Paint Shop Pro 5 given away free nad it did me OK for ages.
You quite often get "LE" versions or old versions of other stuff to encourage you to buy new.

Autonotiv

Original Poster:

2,673 posts

246 months

Saturday 3rd September 2005
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I have spoken to a mate,
he has got paintshop pro, and is going to give me a copy, i will try that and see if its any good.

monkeyhanger

9,266 posts

264 months

Saturday 3rd September 2005
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Autonotiv said:
Now there's an idea, i will look in to it.
Do you have paintshop pro?
If so is it any good?

Cheers

James



I have PSP v8 and use it for 95% of my photo editing.

I only venture into Photoshop if i need to use the CSPro sharpening plug-in.

PSP9 is said to be the closest version to Photoshop yet.

>> Edited by monkeyhanger on Saturday 3rd September 19:40

elderly

3,653 posts

260 months

Saturday 3rd September 2005
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In CS2 the Lens Correction tool is AMAZING !!!!

It corrects pincushioning, barrel distortion,
vignetting, chromatic fringeing and perspective control.
You can be optically sloppy and sort it all out
very simply afterwards.

Do a search on Ebay for CS2 ................
I have heard rumours that you could pay a LOT











less!

HankScorpio

715 posts

259 months

Sunday 4th September 2005
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Bit of a rant...
If you want to try PS - get the demo, if you want to try PSP - get the demo.
Copying, and buying copied software, is a bad thing as well as being illegal.

The end result is that software houses don't get a return on their investment (000's of hours of development time), they lay off developers, and then there are never any fabulous new features for anyone to rave about.

There are loads of free and cheap alternatives to the mainstream commercial products, you just need to find them.

Yes, I do illegal things (probably most days I drive the car) but every single bit of installed software I have is a legitimate version.

I'd be interested to learn how many people are using dodgy / boot sale / backed up / borrowed / extended evaluation / hacked / common key versions of PS to add copyright watermarks to their images. Quite a few I reckon. (Not on here I'm sure, but generally.)

There are commercial artists of various media participate here and I'm sure they protect their rights vigourously and that is respected, just because it's software, it shouldn't make it any different.

... rant over.

_dobbo_

14,619 posts

270 months

Sunday 4th September 2005
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Hank, you are of course spot on with this - with software, music and film it appears theft is generally considered acceptable.

However when Adobe UK set their UK prices to be the same in pounds as they are in dollars (what happened to the exchange rate?), it's hard not to want to steal from them - they are after all effectively stealing from the purchaser!