RE: BMW 528 (E12) | PH Private Area
RE: BMW 528 (E12) | PH Private Area
Thursday 21st September 2023

BMW 528 (E12) | PH Private Area

As we prepare to welcome a new 5 Series, an opportunity to revisit the glorious first


It’s amazing to think that the BMW 5 Series is now in its eighth generation. The G60 is a hugely significant 5 Series, too, though it can feel like they all are at the start. Not only is the electric i5 available alongside the combustion-powered models from the get-go, but there’s also going to be an M5 Touring for just the third time in the near-40-year history of the M-badged flagship. So that’s something to be excited about.

It's hard to imagine the 5 Series without an M5, but the entire first generation existed without one. There was an M535i, yes, and the exceptionally rare 530 MLE for South Africa, but no fully-fledged M car. This makes sense, actually, because M Division was only formed in the same year as the first 5 Series arrived - that’s how old BMW’s standard bearer is. Which was kind of forgotten about in the inevitable 50 years of M celebrations last year. With the motorsport division all about racing back then, a go-faster saloon wasn’t a priority.

Anyway, the 5 Series in question, a 1977 528. Note there’s no ‘i’ on the end there, as fuel was still provided by carbs back then, this E12 having been built just before the introduction of injection. It’s a really, really old saloon car nowadays (the gearbox has just four speeds), even if it still looks fabulous. What we all probably had in our mind still as a 30-year-old BMW is now past 45…

Some of you may recognise this 5 Series from the PH Readers’ Cars thread, which is how we came across it. Owned by PHer Fred since 2016, you only need to look at a few pics or read the first couple of updates to see the love and effort that’s gone into classic BMW ownership. Suffice it to say the 528 didn’t always look this good, not least because the body was stripped and repainted (among many, many other jobs). Now, after seven years, it’s time to sell.

In fact, even for those who knew nothing about the thread, the advert is chock full of information that points to considered, careful ownership. When things like the differential have been changed for better high-speed cruising, it’s clearly been a real passion project. If you haven’t got time for the entire thread, flick through the advert, because it’s a really heartening read. Nothing has been skimped on, and the results speak for themselves. Those nonplussed by modern BMW styling (inside and out) need look no further.

It's pointed out in the forum that the E12 doesn’t really seem to get the love of later 5 Series, and perhaps that’s because there wasn’t an M5; even the M535i has only recently become a prized asset. But for those after a classic straight six, manual BMW, it means this 528 is more affordable than similar contemporary models - have you seen how much an E24 6 Series is these days? Here’s an incredibly rare, exceedingly handsome, lovingly cared for old BMW for £17,995. Don’t say we never do sensible consumer advice on PH.


SPECIFICATION | BMW 528 (E12)

Engine: 2,788cc, straight six
Transmission: 4-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 170@5,800rpm
Torque (lb ft): 173@4,000rpm
MPG: 22ish
CO2: N/A
Year registered: 1977
Recorded mileage: 112,000
Price new: N/A
Yours for: £17,995

See the full advert here

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schaeffs

Original Poster:

389 posts

172 months

Thursday 21st September 2023
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Stunning car and looks like its been well looked after - that would look good on the drive down to Goodwood revival

C5_Steve

8,962 posts

133 months

Thursday 21st September 2023
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That looks very cool!

pSyCoSiS

4,321 posts

235 months

Thursday 21st September 2023
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Brilliant motor and the car which defined a sector.

CrunkleFloop

781 posts

275 months

Thursday 21st September 2023
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A classic elegant design from a time before BMW felt the need for a grill that looks like a squirrel crossed with a gulper eel.

Numeric

1,499 posts

181 months

Thursday 21st September 2023
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When I look at my M2 OG I can see the DNA of this car clearly, more so the original 3-series. The dials for example are clearly of the same mindset, the glass lines similarly.

Good thing? I think so.

BMW don't and more and more I see the DNA filtering away. Maybe it's because I've been driving BMW since the '80s off and on and ultimately BMW feel they need a different type of buyer - but yes the new instruments are not to my taste along with other changes. The sales numbers seem to indicate that they are right so I'm glad I have one of the last of the 'traditional' cars.

sinbaddio

2,861 posts

206 months

Thursday 21st September 2023
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There was an M535i at Manor Park Classics auction this weekend, which went for c£15k. Let down by being an auto sadly.

https://www.manorparkclassics.com/auction/lot/lot-...


MightyBadger

4,667 posts

80 months

Thursday 21st September 2023
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Numeric said:
When I look at my M2 OG I can see the DNA of this car clearly.

I'm glad I have one of the last of the 'traditional' cars.
biglaugh

Turbobanana

8,436 posts

231 months

Thursday 21st September 2023
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Years ago I needed to deliver a new car to a location oddly close to where my brother lived. The deal was that he'd give me a lift to the station and I'd get a train home.

What actually happened was that he desperately needed to get rid of his E12 520, so I ended up buying it for £100 and driving home in it, a 5 hour slog from North Wales to Suffolk, through thick freezing fog and at night.

The car was bright orange, with Alpina-type alloys and the same 4 speed manual as the featured car. It made it back OK, although at one point I thought it was getting a bit darker outside so stopped to check the headlights, only to find them covered with road grime. A quick clean and I was on my way.

The next day I put it in a local auction and sold it for £200.

skylarking808

1,229 posts

116 months

Thursday 21st September 2023
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An E12 that is not rusty - yes please.

Like just about everything about this, effortlessly stylish.

Silvanus

6,913 posts

53 months

Thursday 21st September 2023
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I not much of a BMW fan, but that is a very handsome car

runnerbean 14

305 posts

164 months

Thursday 21st September 2023
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The E12 M535i was an M car in all but name, each one being modified to the requirements of the Motorsport division. Quite a rare car now with only 450 of the European model made in RHD with fewer than 10 surviving and MOT'd in the UK. There also some E12/E28 hybrids from South Africa.

I had a blue one back in the day, but here is my current survivor car, parked next to my son's Quadrifoglio. Pretty much as it left the factory in Reseda Green with full leather, a sunroof and air-con all optioned, but as the article says, no ABS. Easier to keep in tune than an E28 M5, and all kept running beautifully by Steve Curtis at Classic Bahnstormers, arguably the UK's best man for restoring E12s. I can post a few more photos some time if anyone is interested.



Edited by runnerbean 14 on Thursday 21st September 12:56

MarkosGTV

122 posts

220 months

Thursday 21st September 2023
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Stunner. Slightly embarrassingly, I didn't even know of the e12 this time last year, I just thought they were an early pre-facelift e28! But they are absolutely charming and some of them just look the business... I saw and adored a very rare Alpina B7S Turbo e12 back in late Spring at a BMW show, wow what a thing and definitely the best thing on show amongst e9s, e24s, e30 etc... This example is fantastic and I'm amazed they're such good value, had the ad said £40k I'd not even have questioned it.

Slowlygettingit

945 posts

71 months

Thursday 21st September 2023
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MarkosGTV said:
Stunner. Slightly embarrassingly, I didn't even know of the e12 this time last year, I just thought they were an early pre-facelift e28! But they are absolutely **charming** and some of them just look the business... I saw and adored a very rare Alpina B7S Turbo e12 back in late Spring at a BMW show, wow what a thing and definitely the best thing on show amongst e9s, e24s, e30 etc... This example is fantastic and I'm amazed they're such good value, had the ad said £40k I'd not even have questioned it.
Charming - quite possibly the perfect adjective in every sense of the word.

Dinoboy

2,600 posts

247 months

Thursday 21st September 2023
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Had a few of these, e12's and e28's and that is lovely.
Only thing that puts me off another e12 is the ridiculously low gearing.

Water Fairy

6,612 posts

185 months

Thursday 21st September 2023
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Very nice indeed that

620S

433 posts

228 months

Thursday 21st September 2023
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Wish BMW would stop messing around and just get on with putting that front end on the modern stuff!

Muzzman

241 posts

143 months

Thursday 21st September 2023
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[quote=runnerbean 14]I can post a few more photos some time if anyone is interested.



Yes please!

I have a soft spot for old BMW's, I've only had e30's though. I picked up an old e30 more door in beige with beige leather a couple of years ago, changed/ refreshed the suspension and converted it from automatic to manual, it's only a 320i (m20b20) but currently building a 2.7 stroker for it, I thought about just dropping an m54b30 in it but wanted to keep the car period.



Next classic BMW I get will be one of the larger models, I like the e12/e28 but I'm also drawn to the e23's.





Edited by Muzzman on Thursday 21st September 16:44

MarkosGTV

122 posts

220 months

Thursday 21st September 2023
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runnerbean 14 said:
The E12 M535i was an M car in all but name, each one being modified to the requirements of the Motorsport division. Quite a rare car now with only 450 of the European model made in RHD with fewer than 10 surviving and MOT'd in the UK. There also some E12/E28 hybrids from South Africa.

I had a blue one back in the day, but here is my current survivor car, parked next to my son's Quadrifoglio. Pretty much as it left the factory in Reseda Green with full leather, a sunroof and air-con all optioned, but as the article says, no ABS. Easier to keep in tune than an E28 M5, and all kept running beautifully by Steve Curtis at Classic Bahnstormers, arguably the UK's best man for restoring E12s. I can post a few more photos some time if anyone is interested.



Edited by runnerbean 14 on Thursday 21st September 12:56
Seen this on Classic Bahnstormers socials, love the plate on it!

dinkel

27,794 posts

288 months

Thursday 21st September 2023
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Back in the day Alfa Romeo and BMW offered perfect cars with the 3- and 5-series and Alfetta range.

Amazing that 30 or 40 years ago a 2.5 litre was an awesome machine.

MarkosGTV

122 posts

220 months

Thursday 21st September 2023
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Muzzman]unnerbean 14 said:
I can post a few more photos some time if anyone is interested.

Yes please!

I have a soft spot for old BMW's, I've only had e30's though. I picked up an old e30 more door in beige with beige leather a couple of years ago, changed/ refreshed the suspension and converted it from automatic to manual, it's only a 320i (m20b20) but currently building a 2.7 stroker for it, I thought about just dropping an m54b30 in it but wanted to keep the car period.

Next one I'm thinking about a larger car, I like the e12/e28 but I'm also drawn to the e23's.
I became drawn to e23s at the start of the year, and bought this '82 735i in April... The attention it gets amazes me.