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Simon added: "The Government needs to provide something for the industry to support with rising overheads otherwise they will lose many community institutions across the country."
During the British industrial revolution, industry then later railways, were all created by private enterprise.
Many investors in building railways, suffered very burnt fingers.
After the Second World War things changed, whereby the government began using tax payers money to finance many things.
These days, car companies and steel makers say to the government (more than one if they play one against the other), we need money otherwise we are going elsewhere.
A few billion for a new battery factory, another few billion for Port Talbot steel works and handouts to so many other private enterprises, including Aston Martin.
A pandemic, here is the money, an invasion energy prices rise, here is more money. Then pub owners say, give us money to keep our business going. Odd that one pub closes due to high energy costs, whereas the other pubs in the group are doing OK.
Then the government says, our debt is too big, everyone has to have a tax increase.
Could all these handouts be connected with higher taxes ?
Edited by Jon39 on Tuesday 3rd October 11:53
Jon39 said:
Extract;
Simon added: "The Government needs to provide something for the industry to support with rising overheads otherwise they will lose many community institutions across the country."
During the British industrial revolution, industry then later railways, were all created by private enterprise.
Many investors in building railways, suffered very burnt fingers.
After the Second World War things changed, whereby the government began using tax payers money to finance many things.
These days, car companies and steel makers say to the government (more than one if they play one against the other), we need money otherwise we are going elsewhere.
A few billion for a new battery factory, another few billion for Port Talbot steel works and handouts to so many other private enterprises, including Aston Martin.
A pandemic, here is the money, an invasion energy prices rise, here is more money. Then pub owners say, give us money to keep our business going. Odd that one pub closes due to high energy costs, whereas the other pubs in the group are doing OK.
Then the government says, our debt is too big, everyone has to have a tax increase.
Could all these handouts be connected with higher taxes ?
Edited by Jon39 on Tuesday 3rd October 11:53
Edited by BiggaJ on Tuesday 3rd October 15:12
Simpo Two said:
Now they can take their own beer and sleep there!
On the subject of Government support, I'd like to apply for Car Maintenance Grant please...
On the subject of Government support, I'd like to apply for Car Maintenance Grant please...
If you promise not to otherwise take your DB9 to France for maintenance, you should be OK.
On your application, you must ensure that you include the words, sustainable, diversity, eco-friendly, net-zero, carbon natural, then you are certain to be granted wads of money.
Don't say you are sending your car to France on a lorry. You must tell the government that transportation will be in the hands of an environmentally sustainable logistics performance management process (ESLPMP). Bert from Balham will drive, but don't mention him, because he pollutes using his favourite vapes.
Jon39 said:
If you promise not to otherwise take your DB9 to France for maintenance, you should be OK.
On your application, you must ensure that you include the words, sustainable, diversity, eco-friendly, net-zero, carbon natural, then you are certain to be granted wads of money.
Yep, that's all in. I also plan to sell carbon credits for every day I don't drive anywhere.On your application, you must ensure that you include the words, sustainable, diversity, eco-friendly, net-zero, carbon natural, then you are certain to be granted wads of money.
No intention of taking it to France. They drive on the wrong side of the road and I can't speak the lingo.
Simpo Two said:
No intention of taking it to France. They drive on the wrong side of the road and I can't speak the lingo.
Ah, but you need to make the government think that you will take the maintenance jobs to another country.
A trick tactic used successfully many times by, Aston Martin (with the Welsh government); Jaguar (the battery factory); TATA (Port Talbot); Stelantis (Ellesmere Port electric van factory); the list goes on and on. They fall for it every time.
Sorry OP to be off topic, although this line of chat is pub talk
Jon39 said:
A trick tactic used successfully many times by, Aston Martin (with the Welsh government); Jaguar (the battery factory); TATA (Port Talbot); Stelantis (Ellesmere Port electric van factory); the list goes on and on. They fall for it every time.
They do. So industry goes to the country that offers the biggest bribe. The question is whether the country makes more back from the investment than it spends. DeLorean and Rover spring to mind... politicians tend not to be very good at business (if they were they'd be businessmen!).Back to the pub. Reading between the lines, going to fill the rooms with 'asylum seekers' perhaps. And why not? Guaranteed income from the magic money tree, and no sign of demand drying up.
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