Ural Airlines to attempt A320 take-off from a field
Ural Airlines to attempt A320 take-off from a field
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Timothy Bucktu

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16,200 posts

216 months

Friday 6th October 2023
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https://www.key.aero/article/confirmed-ural-airlin...
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Ural Airlines has confirmed that it will attempt to fly its Airbus A320 out of the field it became stranded in following an emergency off-airport landing on September 12.
It's in Siberia. So I guess roller the ground nice and smooth before it freezes over...and off you go?
Should be interesting to watch!

Alex Z

1,805 posts

92 months

Friday 6th October 2023
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I hope it gets live-streamed.

rallye101

2,424 posts

213 months

Friday 6th October 2023
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Alex Z said:
I hope it gets live-streamed.
Hope it gets droned via livestream

Quhet

2,680 posts

162 months

Monday 9th October 2023
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What could possibly go wrong....I guess this is, in part, because there's no hope of the airline being able to source another comparable jet because of sanctions etc?

How are the Chinese/Russian manufacturers doing - has there been much of an uptick in business over the last couple of years because of the war/sanctions etc?

Eric Mc

123,982 posts

281 months

Monday 9th October 2023
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How the Irish solved a similar problem 40 years ago -

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/munster/arid-41...

captain_cynic

15,295 posts

111 months

Tuesday 10th October 2023
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Quhet said:
What could possibly go wrong....I guess this is, in part, because there's no hope of the airline being able to source another comparable jet because of sanctions etc?

How are the Chinese/Russian manufacturers doing - has there been much of an uptick in business over the last couple of years because of the war/sanctions etc?
It take.time to introduce a new type into a fleet. Testing, training and logistics. What Russian airlines have been doing is cannibalising planes for parts and smuggling in what they can as well as cutting flights.

I suspect there are a lot of hangar queens in Russia now. Likely the fate of this A320 once it's out of the field.

Orders for domestic russian airliners would have likely gone up but deliveries are still slow. Theres only 220 odd Sukhoi Superjet 100s after over a decade of production and there is still nothing like an A320/737 as the MC-21 isn't even in service. Russian Airlines got rid of most.of.their old iLs and Tupolevs, even then there is no answer to the Airbus/Boeing widebodies.

Also Russia's domestic designs all end up being a bit st, less efficient and shorter range. The Sukhoi uses a French engine which supplies of would have dropped off.

China will be very reluctant to sell the Comac aircraft to Russia given that they're completely depended on western components to make them.

Basically they're going to have to keep older aircraft flying as replacements are realistically years away, even if they're not as good..


Mabbs9

1,421 posts

234 months

Tuesday 10th October 2023
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I couldn't find any update on this. I'm fascinated. I use to drive A320's. It was often rough enough departing European runways. The nose wheel is tiny. This could end in tears.

GliderRider

2,714 posts

97 months

Tuesday 10th October 2023
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Mabbs9 said:
I couldn't find any update on this. I'm fascinated. I use to drive A320's. It was often rough enough departing European runways. The nose wheel is tiny. This could end in tears.
If they're only planning a hop to the nearest proper airfield with an appropriate size runway, it may be feasible to fit larger nosewheel and leave the gear down.

Simpo Two

89,264 posts

281 months

Tuesday 10th October 2023
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GliderRider said:
If they're only planning a hop to the nearest proper airfield with an appropriate size runway, it may be feasible to fit larger nosewheel and leave the gear down.
Reminds me of 'Shady Lady' in 1943... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shady_Lady_(aircraft...

O/T but too interesting not to post: https://www.bates.edu/magazine/back-issues/y2004/f...


Edited by Simpo Two on Tuesday 10th October 14:10

QuickQuack

2,499 posts

117 months

Saturday 13th January 2024
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Damn. I was hoping they'd do something utterly mad and stupid, then totally screw it up, but they seem to have decided to do the sensible thing.

https://airlive.net/news/2024/01/12/ural-airlines-...

I guess they need the parts to keep other A320s in Russia flying as it's difficult to get the parts due to sanctions, so this one's a ready source of spares.

Alex Z

1,805 posts

92 months

Saturday 13th January 2024
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Yep, probably the best option given their lack of access to spares.
It would have been interesting to see the attempt though

aeropilot

38,453 posts

243 months

Saturday 13th January 2024
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QuickQuack said:
Damn. I was hoping they'd do something utterly mad and stupid, then totally screw it up, but they seem to have decided to do the sensible thing.

https://airlive.net/news/2024/01/12/ural-airlines-...
This was always going to be the outcome.

Its likely, because even in Russia, they probably couldn't find a flight crew stupid enough to attempt it.....


_Rodders_

585 posts

35 months

Saturday 13th January 2024
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Quhet said:
What could possibly go wrong....I guess this is, in part, because there's no hope of the airline being able to source another comparable jet because of sanctions etc?

How are the Chinese/Russian manufacturers doing - has there been much of an uptick in business over the last couple of years because of the war/sanctions etc?
I bet the spare parts are bought in none sanctioned countries and driven across the border. That seems to be what's happened with a lot of stuff. The companies don't care as long as they're not falling foul of the rules themselves while still getting paid.