RE: Behold the Frauscher x Porsche 850 Fantom Air
RE: Behold the Frauscher x Porsche 850 Fantom Air
Tuesday 10th October 2023

Behold the Frauscher x Porsche 850 Fantom Air

The Porsche Macan EV isn't available yet, but you can buy a speedboat powered by its battery tech...


The electric Macan will be a huge launch for Porsche; one of its best selling models, if not still the best seller after all these years, will be going all electric after a decade on sale with not so much as a mild-hybrid to ease into electrification. There will be no PHEV bridge - the ICE band aid is being ripped straight off. Still, given what Porsche has proved itself capable of already with the Taycan, there’s every reason to believe that the Macan EV will be a thoroughly sorted electric car. 

This isn’t that electric car, as the keen will have noticed. Instead it’s something called an 850 Fantom Air, a sports boat that’s the result of a collaboration between Porsche and Frauscher Shipyard. What makes it more interesting than most is that this boat uses the powertrain tech of the next Macan. So that means the same 800-volt architecture for fast charging - up to 250kW, in fact - a 100kWh gross capacity battery, and what Porsche is calling a ‘state of the art’ permanently excited synchronous electric motor. Even elements of the Premium Platform Electric that will underpin the Macan are employed by the boat, so this isn’t the usual ‘collaboration’ that extends to little more than a couple of new badges. It’s a boat powered by quite a lot of what will go in the next Macan; perhaps we’ll face a wave of criticism for featuring an electric boat (sorry), but the 850 Fantom Air seems kind of interesting. 

As is Porsche EV tradition, the numbers for this Shipyard boat are eye-opening. Though restricted, the electric motor is still generating 400kW (544hp), which is transmitted via a shaft to the ‘characteristic marine Z-drive’. Hopefully that’ll make sense to the boaty folk. If there’s an especially well equipped harbour at which to dock, then that 250kW capability will see 10 per cent charge replenished to 80 per cent in ‘well under 30 minutes’. However, that’s pretty unlikely, so the boat can be charged via more conventional methods, assisted by an 11kW onboard AC charger. Top speed is 85 kph, or just over 50mph, and wire rope mounts in the support frame promise great composure when doing your best Don Johnson: ‘The Frauscher x Porsche eFantom glides comfortably over the water despite its sporty overall orientation.’

This being a Porsche, too, there are drive modes for the 850 Fantom Air. There’s a Docking mode for getting around the harbour, limiting speed to 15 kph or eight knots, a Range mode (more than 62 miles is possible), a Sport setting and Sport Plus for that notable top speed. Apparently the optimum cruising speed is 41 kph or 22 knots, which the Frauscher x Porsche can maintain for about an hour.

Porsche has also been involved with the design of the boat, even down to the five analogue gauges like it’s a 911 and a steering wheel that looks straight from a Cayman. But with artificial leather that’s more resistant to salt water, of course. The front seats are Porsche items, too, designed to look like road car sports seats. There’s space for nine onboard, with a swimming platform out back, as well as a ‘generous lounge area with two comfortable sunbathing pads.’ Which PH has never written in a Porsche news story before. 

“This boat is a real milestone in the industry. The electric version of the Fantom Air is better than the version with an internal combustion engine in all driving characteristics, such as top speed, acceleration and handling – and at the same time locally emission-free,” said Stefan Frauscher, Managing Director of Frauscher Shipyard. Porsche will of course be hoping the same sort of thing is true for the Macan EV, of course, when it arrives… 

It’s the boat that’s on sale first, though, which does seem a tad strange. A world premiere for the Frauscher x Porsche 850 Fantom Air will happen in January at a trade fair in Dusseldorf. A provisional plan exists to sell a 25-unit first edition, in any colour Porsche offers for its road cars, from €561,700. Or £485,000. Or about what a GT3 RS will currently cost on the open market. Still, what a pair the Frauscher ought to make with the Macan when it does arrive… 


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Robigus

Original Poster:

114 posts

262 months

Tuesday 10th October 2023
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Just for a little variety, “Ecce”?

howardhughes

1,415 posts

234 months

Tuesday 10th October 2023
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Clever, but I'll take the Riva please.

Augustus Windsock

3,796 posts

185 months

Tuesday 10th October 2023
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Robigus said:
Just for a little variety, “Ecce”?
I ‘see’ what you did there..!
Took me right back to Brunts Grammar School, Mansfield, circa 1975 and the wonderful but frightening Miss Harness.

As for this? It doesn’t float my boat…

Edited by Augustus Windsock on Tuesday 10th October 09:30

Bencolem

1,185 posts

269 months

Tuesday 10th October 2023
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Something about a socking great big electrical charging station in amongst all that water makes me feel a little uneasy…

Earthdweller

19,458 posts

156 months

Tuesday 10th October 2023
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Still limited to 10mph on Windermere!

Darnoc95

516 posts

60 months

Tuesday 10th October 2023
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I reckon their on to a winner with this. Just waiting for all the Ice brigade to start moaning about real world range going up hill etc.biglaugh

Mark-C

7,664 posts

235 months

Tuesday 10th October 2023
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Augustus Windsock said:
Robigus said:
Just for a little variety, “Ecce”?
I ‘see’ what you did there..!
Took me right back to Brunts Grammar School, Mansfield, circa 1975 and the wonderful but frightening Miss Harness.

As for this? It doesn’t foot my boat…
"Miss Harness" feels like an Internet search I shouldn't do on my work laptop!

If you want to recreate the Latin experience then the Ecce Romani book are available as free downloads ...

I like the boat - makes me wistful for the days of attending the London Boat Show with my Dad at Earls Court in the 70s.

Nomme de Plum

7,050 posts

46 months

Tuesday 10th October 2023
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It doesn't foil so pretty poor range.

Comrade T27 good for 80mph with the big engine and less than half the cost.

thelostboy

4,700 posts

255 months

Tuesday 10th October 2023
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That range sounds woeful. What would a conventional powered boat like that achieve?

Arsecati

2,784 posts

147 months

Tuesday 10th October 2023
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We just know there are loads of PHer's, just straining at the lead to jump on and scream about the opening title word....... go on lads....... let it go....... let it go!!!!! biglaughbiglaughbiglaughbiglaugh

Turbobanana

8,434 posts

231 months

Tuesday 10th October 2023
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Looks great, but with all that forward seating I'm expecting a few YouTube videos of these stuffing the bow at Haulover Inlet in due course.

Fetchez la vache

5,903 posts

244 months

Tuesday 10th October 2023
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Arsecati said:
We just know there are loads of PHer's, just straining at the lead to jump on and scream about the opening title word....... go on lads....... let it go....... let it go!!!!! biglaughbiglaughbiglaughbiglaugh
Behold! It's you! You've already done it. scratchchin

browngt3

1,433 posts

241 months

Tuesday 10th October 2023
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They should call it an E-boat!

epom

14,967 posts

191 months

Tuesday 10th October 2023
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Must not moan, all of this Porsche advertising keeps PH free I guess.

pycraft

1,472 posts

214 months

Tuesday 10th October 2023
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Fetchez la vache said:
Arsecati said:
We just know there are loads of PHer's, just straining at the lead to jump on and scream about the opening title word.
Behold! It's you! You've already done it.
I don't know what the issue is. Just think of "Behold" like a separate section, like "Spotted" "Shed" or the sorely missed "Pill".

I think the only difference is that those separate sections are all fundamentally pegged to the classifieds, whereas "Behold!" is for new stuff that's a bit off-the-wall.


HardMiles

401 posts

116 months

Tuesday 10th October 2023
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I'm not the smartest person on the planet, that much is true, but even I'm well aware that electricity and water make poor bedfellows. The world becomes more stupid every day with its thirst for "innovation". Go and do something useful Porsche...

NicoG

661 posts

238 months

Tuesday 10th October 2023
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Is it available in right-hand drive?

Mark-C

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235 months

Tuesday 10th October 2023
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EmailAddress said:
(@2:21)
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Augustus Windsock

3,796 posts

185 months

Tuesday 10th October 2023
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Augustus Windsock said:
Robigus said:
Just for a little variety, “Ecce”?
I ‘see’ what you did there..!
Took me right back to Brunts Grammar School, Mansfield, circa 1975 and the wonderful but frightening Miss Harness.

As for this? It doesn’t float my boat…

soxboy

7,573 posts

249 months

Tuesday 10th October 2023
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HardMiles said:
I'm not the smartest person on the planet, that much is true, but even I'm well aware that electricity and water make poor bedfellows. The world becomes more stupid every day with its thirst for "innovation". Go and do something useful Porsche...
Wait until you find out about nuclear electric submarines - twice the danger!