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I get it. And I’m not whinging as such. But…
Been invited to a dinner (and I accepted so I will play the game) of which the dress is stipulated ‘black tie’. I know it’s horses for courses but personally I feel like a prize chump dressed in a bow tie… don’t get me started on an over sized colourful belt.
It has got me thinking, how much longer will it be valid to stipulate such a dress code. If I identify as something other than a male human, would I be exempt?
Just a bit jarred that I feel forced to dress a certain way when others seem to just crack on and do what they want!
And yes I know I could just decline and spend the evening doing my own thing..
Been invited to a dinner (and I accepted so I will play the game) of which the dress is stipulated ‘black tie’. I know it’s horses for courses but personally I feel like a prize chump dressed in a bow tie… don’t get me started on an over sized colourful belt.
It has got me thinking, how much longer will it be valid to stipulate such a dress code. If I identify as something other than a male human, would I be exempt?
Just a bit jarred that I feel forced to dress a certain way when others seem to just crack on and do what they want!
And yes I know I could just decline and spend the evening doing my own thing..
As someone who is currently sitting on a train wearing said attire I personally hope it lasts for as long as possible, for appropriate events.
Even if I do look like a loon in a carriage full of knackered people on their way home,and students seemingly all in black leatherette trousers.
Even if I do look like a loon in a carriage full of knackered people on their way home,and students seemingly all in black leatherette trousers.
dave123456 said:
I get it. And I’m not whinging as such. But…
Been invited to a dinner (and I accepted so I will play the game) of which the dress is stipulated ‘black tie’. I know it’s horses for courses but personally I feel like a prize chump dressed in a bow tie… don’t get me started on an over sized colourful belt.
It has got me thinking, how much longer will it be valid to stipulate such a dress code. If I identify as something other than a male human, would I be exempt?
Just a bit jarred that I feel forced to dress a certain way when others seem to just crack on and do what they want!
And yes I know I could just decline and spend the evening doing my own thing..
Not everyone who attends a black tie event wears a suit and bow tie. If you don’t identify as a male then feel free to wear whatever gown takes your fancy.Been invited to a dinner (and I accepted so I will play the game) of which the dress is stipulated ‘black tie’. I know it’s horses for courses but personally I feel like a prize chump dressed in a bow tie… don’t get me started on an over sized colourful belt.
It has got me thinking, how much longer will it be valid to stipulate such a dress code. If I identify as something other than a male human, would I be exempt?
Just a bit jarred that I feel forced to dress a certain way when others seem to just crack on and do what they want!
And yes I know I could just decline and spend the evening doing my own thing..
Personally I simply avoid any event that has a black tie dress code, not my thing whatsoever but I fully respect someone's right to stipulate a dress code if they wish.
I personally thing even a standard suit and tie is antiquated in the modern world but I do wear one on occasion when my work requires it and keep a couple of suits and shirts in my wardrobe
I personally thing even a standard suit and tie is antiquated in the modern world but I do wear one on occasion when my work requires it and keep a couple of suits and shirts in my wardrobe
Edited by Jamescrs on Thursday 19th October 21:31
dave123456 said:
I get it. And I’m not whinging as such. But…
Been invited to a dinner (and I accepted so I will play the game) of which the dress is stipulated ‘black tie’. I know it’s horses for courses but personally I feel like a prize chump dressed in a bow tie… don’t get me started on an over sized colourful belt.
It has got me thinking, how much longer will it be valid to stipulate such a dress code. If I identify as something other than a male human, would I be exempt?
Just a bit jarred that I feel forced to dress a certain way when others seem to just crack on and do what they want!
And yes I know I could just decline and spend the evening doing my own thing..
Everyone feels like a dipstick in a bow tie, even worse if you wear a cummerbund, you just get on with it to be honest.Been invited to a dinner (and I accepted so I will play the game) of which the dress is stipulated ‘black tie’. I know it’s horses for courses but personally I feel like a prize chump dressed in a bow tie… don’t get me started on an over sized colourful belt.
It has got me thinking, how much longer will it be valid to stipulate such a dress code. If I identify as something other than a male human, would I be exempt?
Just a bit jarred that I feel forced to dress a certain way when others seem to just crack on and do what they want!
And yes I know I could just decline and spend the evening doing my own thing..
Dress codes are just a fact of life, more so for women than men I suspect.
Jamescrs said:
Personally I simply avoid any event that has a black tie dress code, not my thing whatsoever but I fully respect someone's right to stipulate a dres code if they wish.
I personally thing even a stand and suit and tie is antiquated in the modern world but I do wear one on occasion when my work requires it and keep a couple of suits and shirts in my wardrobe
Me either, I just politely decline any such invite. Don't posses a suit, or a pair of proper shoes. I personally thing even a stand and suit and tie is antiquated in the modern world but I do wear one on occasion when my work requires it and keep a couple of suits and shirts in my wardrobe
Muzzer79 said:
Cummerbund?

Awful things.
Dress shoes
Black socks
Dinner jacket and trousers
Dress shirt (no butterfly collar)
Bow tie
Cufflinks
That is all that’s required.
I use the James Bond rule - if he ain’t wearing it, you don’t need it
Simple, classy, elegant.

I can't agree with this. 
Awful things.
Dress shoes
Black socks
Dinner jacket and trousers
Dress shirt (no butterfly collar)
Bow tie
Cufflinks
That is all that’s required.
I use the James Bond rule - if he ain’t wearing it, you don’t need it
Simple, classy, elegant.
Patent leather pumps are definitely OK with a DJ.
A white cotton pocket square is also OK.
The soft shirts with attached wing collars are indeed incredibly naff but a proper boiled shirt with single cuffs and stiff collar is not.
A waistcoat is also good -- not some ghastly novelty number, but an evening pattern black one (or, for the terminally old-fashioned, a white one).
Also, and these are personal prejudices: the coat should be single breasted with pointed lapels or a shawl collar or double breasted -- under no circumstances whatever should a coat with notched lapels be worn; the coat pockets should be welted; the trousers should be cut high and worn with braces (anyone wearing a belt with a DJ deserves to be de-bagged); and the coat and trousers made of barathea.
lord trumpton said:
I wouldn't go anywhere that someone stipulated how I must dress, especially a full on black tie garb.
Turn the invitation down and find something else to do OP
Black Tie? Not a f
king chance 

Surrounded by beautiful women in evening and cocktail dresses. Sounds like hell Turn the invitation down and find something else to do OP
Black Tie? Not a f
king chance 


lord trumpton said:
I wouldn't go anywhere that someone stipulated how I must dress, especially a full on black tie garb.
Turn the invitation down and find something else to do OP
Black Tie? Not a f
king chance 

"Full on" black tie -- good grief.Turn the invitation down and find something else to do OP
Black Tie? Not a f
king chance 

It's not as if the invite says "white tie and decorations"!
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