Black Tie
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dave123456

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3,766 posts

171 months

Thursday 19th October 2023
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I get it. And I’m not whinging as such. But…

Been invited to a dinner (and I accepted so I will play the game) of which the dress is stipulated ‘black tie’. I know it’s horses for courses but personally I feel like a prize chump dressed in a bow tie… don’t get me started on an over sized colourful belt.

It has got me thinking, how much longer will it be valid to stipulate such a dress code. If I identify as something other than a male human, would I be exempt?

Just a bit jarred that I feel forced to dress a certain way when others seem to just crack on and do what they want!

And yes I know I could just decline and spend the evening doing my own thing..

sleepezy

2,071 posts

258 months

Thursday 19th October 2023
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As someone who is currently sitting on a train wearing said attire I personally hope it lasts for as long as possible, for appropriate events.

Even if I do look like a loon in a carriage full of knackered people on their way home,and students seemingly all in black leatherette trousers.

Scrump

23,797 posts

182 months

Thursday 19th October 2023
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dave123456 said:
I get it. And I’m not whinging as such. But…

Been invited to a dinner (and I accepted so I will play the game) of which the dress is stipulated ‘black tie’. I know it’s horses for courses but personally I feel like a prize chump dressed in a bow tie… don’t get me started on an over sized colourful belt.

It has got me thinking, how much longer will it be valid to stipulate such a dress code. If I identify as something other than a male human, would I be exempt?

Just a bit jarred that I feel forced to dress a certain way when others seem to just crack on and do what they want!

And yes I know I could just decline and spend the evening doing my own thing..
Not everyone who attends a black tie event wears a suit and bow tie. If you don’t identify as a male then feel free to wear whatever gown takes your fancy.

tomw2000

2,508 posts

219 months

Thursday 19th October 2023
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I'd never wear a cummerbund in 'black tie' mode.

But people will love it if you wear colourful bow ties and waistcoats.... ;-)

Jamescrs

5,965 posts

89 months

Thursday 19th October 2023
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Personally I simply avoid any event that has a black tie dress code, not my thing whatsoever but I fully respect someone's right to stipulate a dress code if they wish.

I personally thing even a standard suit and tie is antiquated in the modern world but I do wear one on occasion when my work requires it and keep a couple of suits and shirts in my wardrobe

Edited by Jamescrs on Thursday 19th October 21:31

Grebby

116 posts

227 months

Thursday 19th October 2023
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dave123456 said:
And yes I know I could just decline and spend the evening doing my own thing..
That is what I'd do.

K87

4,174 posts

123 months

Thursday 19th October 2023
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dave123456 said:
I get it. And I’m not whinging as such. But…

Been invited to a dinner (and I accepted so I will play the game) of which the dress is stipulated ‘black tie’. I know it’s horses for courses but personally I feel like a prize chump dressed in a bow tie… don’t get me started on an over sized colourful belt.

It has got me thinking, how much longer will it be valid to stipulate such a dress code. If I identify as something other than a male human, would I be exempt?

Just a bit jarred that I feel forced to dress a certain way when others seem to just crack on and do what they want!

And yes I know I could just decline and spend the evening doing my own thing..
Everyone feels like a dipstick in a bow tie, even worse if you wear a cummerbund, you just get on with it to be honest.

Dress codes are just a fact of life, more so for women than men I suspect.

bad company

21,498 posts

290 months

Thursday 19th October 2023
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I have a selection of colourful bow ties I wear most evenings and always on formal nights on cruise ships. It’s fun and I love it. bowtie

Radec

5,447 posts

71 months

Thursday 19th October 2023
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Wear one of these (minus the hat), by the end of the night everyone will be too pissed up to care.


Muzzer79

12,721 posts

211 months

Thursday 19th October 2023
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Cummerbund?

nono

Awful things.

Dress shoes
Black socks
Dinner jacket and trousers
Dress shirt (no butterfly collar)
Bow tie
Cufflinks

That is all that’s required.

I use the James Bond rule - if he ain’t wearing it, you don’t need it

Simple, classy, elegant.


nute

895 posts

131 months

Thursday 19th October 2023
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Jamescrs said:
Personally I simply avoid any event that has a black tie dress code, not my thing whatsoever but I fully respect someone's right to stipulate a dres code if they wish.

I personally thing even a stand and suit and tie is antiquated in the modern world but I do wear one on occasion when my work requires it and keep a couple of suits and shirts in my wardrobe
Me either, I just politely decline any such invite. Don't posses a suit, or a pair of proper shoes.

Cold

16,449 posts

114 months

Thursday 19th October 2023
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Muzzer79 said:
I use the James Bond rule - if he ain’t wearing it, you don’t need it

Simple, classy, elegant.
I totally agree.


sherman

14,949 posts

239 months

Thursday 19th October 2023
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Bonnie prince charlie kilt suit for me when it comes to black tie.
Alway goes down well

TGCOTF-dewey

7,388 posts

79 months

Thursday 19th October 2023
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I love a black tie do...I'm honestly surprised so many don't.

It's nice to see everyone looking their best... OK colourful tie / waistcoat folk excluded from that statement.

Muzzer79

12,721 posts

211 months

Thursday 19th October 2023
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Cold said:
Muzzer79 said:
I use the James Bond rule - if he ain’t wearing it, you don’t need it

Simple, classy, elegant.
I totally agree.

Towelling onesie is notoriously underrated.. wink

TheChampers

4,097 posts

162 months

Thursday 19th October 2023
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I quite like the colourful cumberbund, waistcoat, bow tie lot; it’s a simple signal/guide as to who to not talk to smile

EW109

320 posts

164 months

Thursday 19th October 2023
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Muzzer79 said:
Cummerbund?

nono

Awful things.

Dress shoes
Black socks
Dinner jacket and trousers
Dress shirt (no butterfly collar)
Bow tie
Cufflinks

That is all that’s required.

I use the James Bond rule - if he ain’t wearing it, you don’t need it

Simple, classy, elegant.

I can't agree with this.

Patent leather pumps are definitely OK with a DJ.

A white cotton pocket square is also OK.

The soft shirts with attached wing collars are indeed incredibly naff but a proper boiled shirt with single cuffs and stiff collar is not.

A waistcoat is also good -- not some ghastly novelty number, but an evening pattern black one (or, for the terminally old-fashioned, a white one).

Also, and these are personal prejudices: the coat should be single breasted with pointed lapels or a shawl collar or double breasted -- under no circumstances whatever should a coat with notched lapels be worn; the coat pockets should be welted; the trousers should be cut high and worn with braces (anyone wearing a belt with a DJ deserves to be de-bagged); and the coat and trousers made of barathea.

anonymous-user

78 months

Thursday 19th October 2023
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I wouldn't go anywhere that someone stipulated how I must dress, especially a full on black tie garb.

Turn the invitation down and find something else to do OP

Black Tie? Not a fking chance vomit

smile

TGCOTF-dewey

7,388 posts

79 months

Thursday 19th October 2023
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lord trumpton said:
I wouldn't go anywhere that someone stipulated how I must dress, especially a full on black tie garb.

Turn the invitation down and find something else to do OP

Black Tie? Not a fking chance vomit

smile
Surrounded by beautiful women in evening and cocktail dresses. Sounds like hell laugh

EW109

320 posts

164 months

Thursday 19th October 2023
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lord trumpton said:
I wouldn't go anywhere that someone stipulated how I must dress, especially a full on black tie garb.

Turn the invitation down and find something else to do OP

Black Tie? Not a fking chance vomit

smile
"Full on" black tie -- good grief.

It's not as if the invite says "white tie and decorations"!