911 vs. Amv8 evo/autocar SPOILER
911 vs. Amv8 evo/autocar SPOILER
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peterpeter

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6,438 posts

284 months

Sunday 4th September 2005
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two tests now put the 911 ahead of the new aston.

But its pretty close on the road..they are saying..this being the best handling aston ever. On the track the 911 is significantly better.

Im sure it will take sales away from Porsche, and in a way I hope it does , because the Aston is bound to attract those after the prestige and image, leaving the 911 to the more serious driver.

No guessing top gear will say the aston is far far better, and who's betting they'll engineer it to be quicker round the track too.

Deep

2,534 posts

270 months

Sunday 4th September 2005
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Problem is that the Porsche maybe 20% better in dynamics but the AM is 100% better in the looks dept.

Pickled Piper

6,451 posts

262 months

Sunday 4th September 2005
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I haven't seen either of the articles.

I guess the Aston will take some sales from Porsche. However, Aston production is measured in thousands per year, as opposed to tens of thousands per year for Porsche. I can't remember the exact figures but even if all the Astons are purchased at the expense of Porsches it will not influence the Porsche sales figures unduly.

pp

DanH

12,287 posts

287 months

Sunday 4th September 2005
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Deep said:
Problem is that the Porsche maybe 20% better in dynamics but the AM is 100% better in the looks dept.


The Aston is also 15k more, and whilst the looks are good, I'm beginning to get bored of the Aston family look. They've overdone it imho with so many models looking identical.

peterpeter

Original Poster:

6,438 posts

284 months

Sunday 4th September 2005
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DanH said:

Deep said:
Problem is that the Porsche maybe 20% better in dynamics but the AM is 100% better in the looks dept.



The Aston is also 15k more, and whilst the looks are good, I'm beginning to get bored of the Aston family look. They've overdone it imho with so many models looking identical.


have to agree.

I wasnt bowled over by the looks from the photos in Evo. Its a pretty car, and the original press photos looked amazing, but the action shots werent quite that impressive....

DanH

12,287 posts

287 months

Sunday 4th September 2005
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To be fair, I'm one of the apparent minority who thinks the facelift 996s look better than 997s too. I just love the high tech look of the lights and find the 997 a real step backwards.

GCerbera

5,161 posts

278 months

Monday 5th September 2005
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DanH said:

To be fair, I'm one of the apparent minority who thinks the facelift 996s look better than 997s too. I just love the high tech look of the lights and find the 997 a real step backwards.
Add another here to the minority.

cyrus1971

855 posts

266 months

Monday 5th September 2005
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I have not read the articles.

I drove the DB9 and as I have said on this forum before the best part of the test drive was going home in my 996TT. Build on the Aston was DREADFULL, simply astonishingly poor for such an expensive car. The bamboo wood veneer in my demonstrator was peeling off, the paint already scratched, the air vets looked like rice paper and the cabin was cramped. It rode well but felt woolly, It looked like men who leave the gym and desperate to impress with muscle mass but have no aerobic fitness.

I love the fact the Astons are the way they are at the moment – it puts Porsche values into relief…

rich1231

17,339 posts

287 months

Monday 5th September 2005
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cyrus1971 said:
I have not read the articles.

I drove the DB9 and as I have said on this forum before the best part of the test drive was going home in my 996TT. Build on the Aston was DREADFULL, simply astonishingly poor for such an expensive car. The bamboo wood veneer in my demonstrator was peeling off, the paint already scratched, the air vets looked like rice paper and the cabin was cramped. It rode well but felt woolly, It looked like men who leave the gym and desperate to impress with muscle mass but have no aerobic fitness.

I love the fact the Astons are the way they are at the moment – it puts Porsche values into relief…


Ive got a V8 coming in about 11 weeks.. I have started to get chilly feet with regards the car.. God knows what Im gonna do.. and PP stop that serious driver nonsense at once.

s3am

1,383 posts

279 months

Monday 5th September 2005
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GCerbera said:

DanH said:

To be fair, I'm one of the apparent minority who thinks the facelift 996s look better than 997s too. I just love the high tech look of the lights and find the 997 a real step backwards.

Add another here to the minority.


Me too, but only the facelift.

peterpeter

Original Poster:

6,438 posts

284 months

Monday 5th September 2005
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rich1231 said:

cyrus1971 said:
I have not read the articles.

I drove the DB9 and as I have said on this forum before the best part of the test drive was going home in my 996TT. Build on the Aston was DREADFULL, simply astonishingly poor for such an expensive car. The bamboo wood veneer in my demonstrator was peeling off, the paint already scratched, the air vets looked like rice paper and the cabin was cramped. It rode well but felt woolly, It looked like men who leave the gym and desperate to impress with muscle mass but have no aerobic fitness.

I love the fact the Astons are the way they are at the moment – it puts Porsche values into relief…



Ive got a V8 coming in about 11 weeks.. I have started to get chilly feet with regards the car.. God knows what Im gonna do.. and PP stop that serious driver nonsense at once.



fair enough.. im sure it is a great drivers car...but im hoping that most of the buyers who move away from porsche are the sort of people who dont do track days and just drive the car for its image and pose value.

I cant imagine seeing amv8s outmumbering porsches at RMA days fo quite a while, but Ill bet there will be plenty parked around Ken/chelsea soon.

roshambo

580 posts

274 months

Monday 5th September 2005
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Add another here to the "minority"

simonharrod911

6,792 posts

259 months

Monday 5th September 2005
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s3am said:

GCerbera said:


DanH said:

To be fair, I'm one of the apparent minority who thinks the facelift 996s look better than 997s too. I just love the high tech look of the lights and find the 997 a real step backwards.


Add another here to the minority.



Me too, but only the facelift.


I can only assume that you don't like the increase in power, increase in speed, infinitely better interior, and hugely improved rear end grip.

Also your eyes must be painted on.

spark_s

105 posts

256 months

Monday 5th September 2005
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Add another with 'painted on eyes'

jcosh

1,245 posts

259 months

Monday 5th September 2005
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My eyes work just fine - infact because of my job they work brilliantly and I also believe that the 996 is a better looking motor than the 997.

Particulary in the GT3RS form!

Jonathan

DanH

12,287 posts

287 months

Monday 5th September 2005
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simonharrod911 said:

s3am said:


GCerbera said:



DanH said:

To be fair, I'm one of the apparent minority who thinks the facelift 996s look better than 997s too. I just love the high tech look of the lights and find the 997 a real step backwards.



Add another here to the minority.




Me too, but only the facelift.



I can only assume that you don't like the increase in power, increase in speed, infinitely better interior, and hugely improved rear end grip.

Also your eyes must be painted on.


Easy! You don't need to get personal!

Anyway the only one of your points that I would agree on versus my car is the interior quality - I could have purchased a 997S for similar money.

911 habit

294 posts

272 months

Monday 5th September 2005
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simonharrod911 said:

s3am said:


GCerbera said:



DanH said:

To be fair, I'm one of the apparent minority who thinks the facelift 996s look better than 997s too. I just love the high tech look of the lights and find the 997 a real step backwards.



Add another here to the minority.




Me too, but only the facelift.



I can only assume that you don't like the increase in power, increase in speed, infinitely better interior, and hugely improved rear end grip.

Also your eyes must be painted on.


I prefer the 996 face lift to the 997. As for grip & power, there's always the mighty TT! I've yet to find a 997 to beat mine with 525bhp.

jcosh

1,245 posts

259 months

Monday 5th September 2005
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A further point.

One of the main things that I don't like on the 997 is the design of the exterior door handles. Really spoils the flow of the lines.

Sorry, getting completly off topic here.

Jonathan

simonharrod911

6,792 posts

259 months

Monday 5th September 2005
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DanH said:

simonharrod911 said:


s3am said:



GCerbera said:




DanH said:

To be fair, I'm one of the apparent minority who thinks the facelift 996s look better than 997s too. I just love the high tech look of the lights and find the 997 a real step backwards.




Add another here to the minority.





Me too, but only the facelift.




I can only assume that you don't like the increase in power, increase in speed, infinitely better interior, and hugely improved rear end grip.

Also your eyes must be painted on.



Easy! You don't need to get personal!

Anyway the only one of your points that I would agree on versus my car is the interior quality - I could have purchased a 997S for similar money.


Dan,

You don't agree that the 997 has more power than the facelift 996

simonharrod911

6,792 posts

259 months

Monday 5th September 2005
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Dan,

I've just looked at your car, I didn't realise you were comparing the 997 with a GT3RS, so for the record the 996 :

Looks better,
has more power,
has more grip,

who cares about the interior.

Sorry.