Junior ISA or regular ISA
Junior ISA or regular ISA
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skinnyman

Original Poster:

1,875 posts

117 months

Friday 27th October 2023
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Our kids are 10 & 6 now, and starting a savings account for them is probably something I should have done sooner, but there we are.

We're wanting to save £50-£100 per month per child. My question is, what are the pros/cons of starting a Junior ISA for each of them vs just opening one in my wife's name and putting the money in there?

I have a S&S ISA in my name, but my wife doesn't have one yet. Tbh I doubt we'd ever reach a point where we'd need to max out both of our ISA allowances as I also make additional pension contributions at work as part of our long term savings goals, so I don't see that being an issue.

Thoughts?

Darlo74

316 posts

233 months

Friday 27th October 2023
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From what I understand the only real difference for what you're wanting to do is that a Junior ISA legally becomes your childs at age 18. They can they do what they want with it. If you invest into your wife's ISA allowance it's legally hers so she can choose what happens to it.

Beyond that you can't save as much into a Junior ISA - £9k I think vs £20k for an Adult ISA. But if you're looking at £100-£200 a month that doesn't impact you.

skinnyman

Original Poster:

1,875 posts

117 months

Friday 27th October 2023
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Darlo74 said:
From what I understand the only real difference for what you're wanting to do is that a Junior ISA legally becomes your childs at age 18. They can they do what they want with it. If you invest into your wife's ISA allowance it's legally hers so she can choose what happens to it.

Beyond that you can't save as much into a Junior ISA - £9k I think vs £20k for an Adult ISA. But if you're looking at £100-£200 a month that doesn't impact you.
The fact it becomes theirs at 18 is one of the reasons we're considering saving into my wife's name instead. I was once 18, I know it's not the best time to be handed a wad of cash. It might be better saved until they've finished uni, or when they want to buy a house etc.

So am I right in thinking basically the only difference is the Junior ISA legally becomes their money at 18, whereas one in my wife's name would legally be hers, until we did something else with it?

Colonel Cupcake

1,342 posts

69 months

Friday 27th October 2023
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Also, for benefits and bankruptcy purposes, if the money is in your wifes ISA, it's hers, not your childs. As far as I know, if it is in a Junior ISA, the money belongs to the child and is not counted for benefits and bankruptcy purposes.

AdamIM

1,267 posts

50 months

Friday 27th October 2023
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skinnyman said:
Darlo74 said:
From what I understand the only real difference for what you're wanting to do is that a Junior ISA legally becomes your childs at age 18. They can they do what they want with it. If you invest into your wife's ISA allowance it's legally hers so she can choose what happens to it.

Beyond that you can't save as much into a Junior ISA - £9k I think vs £20k for an Adult ISA. But if you're looking at £100-£200 a month that doesn't impact you.
The fact it becomes theirs at 18 is one of the reasons we're considering saving into my wife's name instead. I was once 18, I know it's not the best time to be handed a wad of cash. It might be better saved until they've finished uni, or when they want to buy a house etc.

So am I right in thinking basically the only difference is the Junior ISA legally becomes their money at 18, whereas one in my wife's name would legally be hers, until we did something else with it?
ISA's, you can withdraw the money
JISA, you can not withdraw the money, only move to another asset manager.
Limits are 20k/9k as stated

duckson

1,304 posts

206 months

Saturday 28th October 2023
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skinnyman said:
Darlo74 said:
From what I understand the only real difference for what you're wanting to do is that a Junior ISA legally becomes your childs at age 18. They can they do what they want with it. If you invest into your wife's ISA allowance it's legally hers so she can choose what happens to it.

Beyond that you can't save as much into a Junior ISA - £9k I think vs £20k for an Adult ISA. But if you're looking at £100-£200 a month that doesn't impact you.
The fact it becomes theirs at 18 is one of the reasons we're considering saving into my wife's name instead. I was once 18, I know it's not the best time to be handed a wad of cash. It might be better saved until they've finished uni, or when they want to buy a house etc.

So am I right in thinking basically the only difference is the Junior ISA legally becomes their money at 18, whereas one in my wife's name would legally be hers, until we did something else with it?
Maybe condition them to the fact the money is for a house, my kids all know this and are using it as such (even my parents did it with me back in the TESSA dsys).

T_S_M

1,230 posts

207 months

Saturday 28th October 2023
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I have a similar thing for my daughter whose 5. Been paying in around £100/month since she was born and any money that relatives gave us when she was born went in there as well. Plan is that she can use it towards a house deposit once shes older.

It's currently just in a regular ISA but I'm wondering whether to move it in to a S+S ISA so it can grow over the next 15+ years? If not, whats the best option for steady growth over a long term?

skinnyman

Original Poster:

1,875 posts

117 months

Saturday 28th October 2023
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T_S_M said:
I have a similar thing for my daughter whose 5. Been paying in around £100/month since she was born and any money that relatives gave us when she was born went in there as well. Plan is that she can use it towards a house deposit once shes older.

It's currently just in a regular ISA but I'm wondering whether to move it in to a S+S ISA so it can grow over the next 15+ years? If not, whats the best option for steady growth over a long term?
S&P500 has grown around 9.5% annually for around 20yrs, even adjusted for inflation it's nearly 7%.

However, given the US's current national debt, and the fact it's only going one way, I've no idea what the future holds for the country.

I'd personally split the money across 10 different funds/ETFs so the risk is spread. 1 US based, 1 Europe, emerging markets etc.

okgo

41,608 posts

222 months

Sunday 29th October 2023
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Why wouldn’t you just buy an all world and be done with it with one vs multiple?

ftse global all cap has 7141 stocks in it and has decent coverage of pretty much everything you’ve said there.

You can transfer your cash ISA over.

menousername

2,366 posts

166 months

Monday 30th October 2023
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Been looking at this recently also. Anyone using a straight Cash Junior ISA that they can recommend?

Providers seem to be thin on ground, and from the few that there are the best rates are with Building Societies that offer postal / branch access only, not online.

duckson

1,304 posts

206 months

Monday 30th October 2023
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menousername said:
Been looking at this recently also. Anyone using a straight Cash Junior ISA that they can recommend?

Providers seem to be thin on ground, and from the few that there are the best rates are with Building Societies that offer postal / branch access only, not online.
Coventry BS. 4.95%.
No real reason to keep looking at it, it’s locked away until they are 18 so you might as well get the best rate you can.

FredAstaire

2,420 posts

236 months

Monday 30th October 2023
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skinnyman said:
The fact it becomes theirs at 18 is one of the reasons we're considering saving into my wife's name instead. I was once 18, I know it's not the best time to be handed a wad of cash. It might be better saved until they've finished uni, or when they want to buy a house etc.

So am I right in thinking basically the only difference is the Junior ISA legally becomes their money at 18, whereas one in my wife's name would legally be hers, until we did something else with it?
and you can't transfer her ISA to them....i.e. you will need to cash it out when the time comes.

menousername

2,366 posts

166 months

Sunday 5th November 2023
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duckson said:
Coventry BS. 4.95%.
No real reason to keep looking at it, it’s locked away until they are 18 so you might as well get the best rate you can.
Appreciate the advice

Thought I would report back in case it helps anyone. In the end I opted for Tesco bank @ 4% as I like being able to view it on an app, rightly or wrongly, and that was the best rate I could find.

Their app is adequate and no frills which suits me. The ISA very easy to set up and the paperwork arrived within two days.

Again rightly or wrongly I will probably do a 70/30 ish cash vs stocks & shares split of ISA contributions. 30% gamble on higher than interest rate growth via S&S. Knowing me they will probably tank lol





thebraketester

15,563 posts

162 months

Thursday 26th September 2024
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Has anyone opened a JISA with RBS? I am having real trouble getting them to give me the details for the account so that family can contribute. Nothing shows up on the online savings portal thing. Well over an hour deep in phone calls to them to try and get it out of them.

Thanks

halo34

2,890 posts

223 months

Thursday 26th September 2024
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thebraketester said:
Has anyone opened a JISA with RBS? I am having real trouble getting them to give me the details for the account so that family can contribute. Nothing shows up on the online savings portal thing. Well over an hour deep in phone calls to them to try and get it out of them.

Thanks
RBS are pretty high fees - currently trying to move the JISA away from them

thebraketester

15,563 posts

162 months

Thursday 26th September 2024
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halo34 said:
thebraketester said:
Has anyone opened a JISA with RBS? I am having real trouble getting them to give me the details for the account so that family can contribute. Nothing shows up on the online savings portal thing. Well over an hour deep in phone calls to them to try and get it out of them.

Thanks
RBS are pretty high fees - currently trying to move the JISA away from them
I am already thinking of doing exactly that. Who are you going to move it to?

NowWatchThisDrive

1,271 posts

128 months

Thursday 26th September 2024
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Free with Hargreaves Lansdown - no account charges or dealing fees.

VeeReihenmotor6

2,543 posts

199 months

Thursday 26th September 2024
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I set up a couple fo JISAs with Hargreaves and Lansdown for my kids when they were young. I pickded a Multi-Manager balanced fund, my thinking was to balance exposure across the world.

They also have a kids cash savings account also.

The kids are now 9 & 11, we talk about money, they go to the bank to cash in any money they recieve. They are aware of their investment account and I talk to them about them taking over the batten when they start earning to allow their investments to grow. I have talked about it not becoming something they cash in to buy a house but to build little and often into something that could provide them an income in their lifetime. Fingers crossed they don't go mad at 18.

Even £100 invested every month from a child's young age, that they continue, could beome a substantial sum come their 60th birthday. £100 isn't going to derail any of their life time plans in reality.

Edited by VeeReihenmotor6 on Thursday 26th September 11:31

Craikeybaby

11,845 posts

249 months

Thursday 26th September 2024
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My boys are 8 and 5, and I’m glad that I’ve been putting money into a separate fund in my S&S ISA, rather than a JISA, as I expect they will be like I was at 18 - not ready ti be sensible with a load of money.

My wife has been paying a similar amount into savings accounts in their names, so they will get some money before they turn, but not as much.

thebraketester

15,563 posts

162 months

Monday 30th September 2024
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thebraketester said:
halo34 said:
thebraketester said:
Has anyone opened a JISA with RBS? I am having real trouble getting them to give me the details for the account so that family can contribute. Nothing shows up on the online savings portal thing. Well over an hour deep in phone calls to them to try and get it out of them.

Thanks
RBS are pretty high fees - currently trying to move the JISA away from them
I am already thinking of doing exactly that. Who are you going to move it to?
Started the ball rolling.

A huge FYI.... RBS do not provide means to enable anyone else but the linked account holder to add to a JISA. Worth nothing. They have been utterly useless on the phone.