Used DBX pricing
Discussion
paulbirkin said:
How long before we see used Aston Martin DBX under £100k?
3 cars this evening on AT, all circa £104k, one with 45000 miles which looks expensive compared to 25000 milers.
Currently 91 cars for sale and prices certainly seem to be taking a bit of a battering over the last 8-10 weeks.
3 cars this evening on AT, all circa £104k, one with 45000 miles which looks expensive compared to 25000 milers.
Currently 91 cars for sale and prices certainly seem to be taking a bit of a battering over the last 8-10 weeks.
The earliest DBX cars will now be 3 years old.
Although £100k is a significant round number, I don't think the depreciation you mention is out of the ordinary.
I bought an 'as new' 2½ year old 4.7 V8V 8,000 miles, from a main dealer at 40% below the cost new (with options).
At 3 years old, take 50% off a new DBX and it might be below £100k.
Do you think the eventual DBX depreciation floor will hold up (like Aston Martin sports cars), or will it continue down to £1000 like most cars? There is a ray of hope for a non sports car Aston Martin, ie the Cygnet. I understand they are very sought after. Some, a few years old were even selling for the new price, at one stage.
It will be interesting to see on the DBX front how the market reacts really as some of these early DBXs will have higher running costs than the sports cars as AM only gave them 3 yrs free servicing as opposed to the 5 yrs of every other current model, despite 707 aside, they are the same engine.
Whilst obviously not the only thing to take into account will more people be tempted to take them outside the network at 4 unlike the sports cars which still have free servicing? (Presuming said independent has AMDS2 which will be required as the 4th yr service is also a spark plug change)
Whilst obviously not the only thing to take into account will more people be tempted to take them outside the network at 4 unlike the sports cars which still have free servicing? (Presuming said independent has AMDS2 which will be required as the 4th yr service is also a spark plug change)
I see a 3 year old 45000 mile car has finally been reduced to 99950, so what was a circa £165k car has now lost in excess of £20k per year.
I think it is very tough out there finding customers for used cars over £100k , I am going to keep my money in the bank for a little while longer.
I think it is very tough out there finding customers for used cars over £100k , I am going to keep my money in the bank for a little while longer.
paulbirkin said:
I see a 3 year old 45000 mile car has finally been reduced to 99950, so what was a circa £165k car has now lost in excess of £20k per year.
I think it is very tough out there finding customers for used cars over £100k , I am going to keep my money in the bank for a little while longer.
60% of original cost after three years seems about normalI think it is very tough out there finding customers for used cars over £100k , I am going to keep my money in the bank for a little while longer.
To me, that doesn’t seem bad depreciation for a “family” car.
But what do I know? I thought I’d try to make the point by quoting the lowest cost for a 2020 Lamborghini Urus. Erm… £175k and up. And that’s for an Audi in drag. Makes the unique and highly acclaimed DBX platform look like a bargain! And even though I’m not into SUV’s as such, I have to admit the DBX is the only handsome type of the breed out there.
But what do I know? I thought I’d try to make the point by quoting the lowest cost for a 2020 Lamborghini Urus. Erm… £175k and up. And that’s for an Audi in drag. Makes the unique and highly acclaimed DBX platform look like a bargain! And even though I’m not into SUV’s as such, I have to admit the DBX is the only handsome type of the breed out there.
nickv12 said:
... I have to admit the DBX is the only handsome type of the breed out there.
If we are considering shape and design, irrespective of price, Ferrari have also done a reasonable job.
They don't like their SUV to be referred to as an SUV. Four door, is a term more to their liking.
While I acknowledge the DBX is likely a fantastic car, I have to admit to preferring the looks of the Ferrari SUV, especially at the rear. That busy, Vantage on steroids rear of the DBX (and Vantage) I can’t help liking less over time. 7 years in and IMHO the ‘2nd century’ designs are just not aging particularly well.
I think the example shown in comparison to the Purosangue doesn't do the DBX any favours as it is white.
Looking better in a darker hue.
The new style rear introduced for the New soon to be old Vantage dates the VH-series quite a bit.
In fact it's the rear I like the most of the New Vantage which I believe they will keep for the soon to be released New New Vantage which will have a revised front end and interior. These are the two points which really need to be addressed with the new model, rear actually looks good and which dates the original Gaydon Vantage the most in my opinion.
Edited by CSK1 on Saturday 11th November 12:30
CSK1 said:
... The new style rear introduced for the New soon to be old Vantage dates the VH-series quite a bit.
In fact it's the rear I like the most of the New Vantage which I believe they will keep for the soon to be released New New Vantage which will have a revised front end and interior. These are the two points which really need to be addressed with the new model, rear actually looks good and which dates the original Gaydon Vantage the most in my opinion.
In fact it's the rear I like the most of the New Vantage which I believe they will keep for the soon to be released New New Vantage which will have a revised front end and interior. These are the two points which really need to be addressed with the new model, rear actually looks good and which dates the original Gaydon Vantage the most in my opinion.
Whether I am the only person thinking this, I don't know. I would be interested to know whether my point has occurred to others.
I feel that there are two very different philosophies, for the rear designs of the VH and current Vantages.
Certainly nothing wrong with either.
VH ........ A smooth functional design, with nothing that does not have a practical relevance.
2018 ..... Rear design based on a racing Vantage, having 6 vertical vanes and a diffuser, to direct airflow.
My thinking is about all those airflow fitments. I do wonder how fast you have to go, before any beneficial effect is even noticeable. Perhaps at 150 mph, it might all begin to help with rear stability.
If so, those design features must purely be for show and therefore serve no practical purpose on a road car.
Jon39 said:
Whether I am the only person thinking this, I don't know. I would be interested to know whether my point has occurred to others.
I feel that there are two very different philosophies, for the rear designs of the VH and current Vantages.
Certainly nothing wrong with either.
VH ........ A smooth functional design, with nothing that does not have a practical relevance.
2018 ..... Rear design based on a racing Vantage, having 6 vertical vanes and a diffuser, to direct airflow.
My thinking is about all those airflow fitments. I do wonder how fast you have to go, before any beneficial effect is even noticeable. Perhaps at 150 mph, it might all begin to help with rear stability.
If so, those design features must purely be for show and therefore serve no practical purpose on a road car.
My understanding is that such diffusers on road cars start to add downforce typically at around 60mph, depending on design obviously, so they do have a value on a road car, albeit only when pushing hard or when using it on a track. The downside of anything that adds downforce is that it typically adds drag too.
Jon39 said:
My thinking is about all those airflow fitments. I do wonder how fast you have to go, before any beneficial effect is even noticeable. Perhaps at 150 mph, it might all begin to help with rear stability.
If so, those design features must purely be for show and therefore serve no practical purpose on a road car.
Much like people who stick untried or untested huge wings on the back of their Aston.If so, those design features must purely be for show and therefore serve no practical purpose on a road car.
Style over substance.
Jon39 said:
My thinking is about all those airflow fitments. I do wonder how fast you have to go, before any beneficial effect is even noticeable. Perhaps at 150 mph, it might all begin to help with rear stability.
If so, those design features must purely be for show and therefore serve no practical purpose on a road car.
Except, perhaps at Vmax on the autobahns? Or on an airfield? If you advertise to customers that your car will do 200 mph then your customers (or their dependants) tend to get upset if the car is not safe at the speed you say it can do.If so, those design features must purely be for show and therefore serve no practical purpose on a road car.
You don't remember the rather shame-faced recall Audi had to do with the original TT after it killed some people? The pure Bauhaus shape was aerodynamically unstable over 180 kph (113 mph), an academic and licence-losing speed in most countries and so surely not a problem?
https://www.carsguide.com.au/oversteer/remember-th...
typo fixed
Edited by LTP on Saturday 11th November 17:47
LTP said:
Except, perhaps at Vmax on the autobahns? Or on an airfield? If you advertise to customers that your car will do 200 mph then your customers (or their dependants) tend to get upset if the car is not safe at the speed you say it can do.
You don't remember the rather shame-faced recall Audi had to do with the original TT after it killed some people? The pure Bauhaus shape was aerodynamically unstable over 180 kph (113 mph), an academic and licence-losing speed in most countries and so surely not a problem?
You don't remember the rather shame-faced recall Audi had to do with the original TT after it killed some people? The pure Bauhaus shape was aerodynamically unstable over 180 kph (113 mph), an academic and licence-losing speed in most countries and so surely not a problem?
A relevant point. Taking all that into account, perhaps they should also adorn the front of the revised Vantage, with a wing and a selection of vanes, to make the car safe to drive at top speed.
Keeping to topic, should that also apply to a depreciated DBX 707?
Exit Marek, enter AI Aston Martin, to see what that might look like.
Edited by Jon39 on Sunday 12th November 08:35
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