No prior warning of impending motor junction closure
No prior warning of impending motor junction closure
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TUS373

Original Poster:

5,030 posts

303 months

Thursday 2nd November 2023
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Hoping that someone will read this and help see sense.

After about 10.00pm, there are occasional closures of sections of the M62 for roadworks. Yes, could probably find when, where some place, but I don't where and don't check.

But...there is no pattern. No consistency.

On Monday I was taking A627M to join M62 East at Junction 20. No warning signs on the A627M to say J20 shut. You just find out when you get there. If given an earlier sign, would not have to take a significant detour. This is next to the area in Manchester where they want to charge for clean air zone, but stuff like this creates more miles to be done than necessary.

Tonight, get on M62 at J20 to travel to J22. J22 shut though! When do they tell you? AFTER passing J21! From then on, it must be an extra 14 miles to go to the next junction and double back on A and B roads.

It's rubbish!

davek_964

10,589 posts

197 months

Friday 3rd November 2023
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We were travelling south from Luton at the start of the week - around 23:30. The M25 was shut between J16 and J15 for roadworks - we got loads of warnings - almost as soon as we got on the M1 southbound, and repeatedly on the M1 and M25.

Griffith4ever

6,232 posts

57 months

Friday 3rd November 2023
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You should try working rurally where you finish work regularly after 1am. Overnight closures are common and infuriating. Coming North from Cornwall I was once forced to drive around the coast as the main A road was closed. Took an extra hour at least.

s55shh

519 posts

234 months

Friday 3rd November 2023
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Manchester Clean Air Zone isn't operating yet. London ULEZ one is and if you follow signed diversions into it, the cameras are supposed to be turned off.

Tony1963

5,808 posts

184 months

Friday 3rd November 2023
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I use

https://one.network/

It’s not the easiest thing to do, deciphering how it’s all going to affect you, for how long etc, but in my part of rural Suffolk with seemingly endless roadworks on the country roads, it saves a lot of frayed tempers.

TUS373

Original Poster:

5,030 posts

303 months

Friday 3rd November 2023
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s55shh said:
Manchester Clean Air Zone isn't operating yet. London ULEZ one is and if you follow signed diversions into it, the cameras are supposed to be turned off.
Correct.

My point is that whilst there is anti-pollution sentiment and future intention to charge motorists for burning fossil fuels - mismanagement of motorway closures means that motorists can be forced into taking a long way round thus causing more pollution, than if they had been fair and correct warning, and can plan an alternative that was a better route.

However manages motorway closures and signage (or lack of) for the M62 - needs to be made aware.

Mr Whippy

32,155 posts

263 months

Saturday 4th November 2023
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I remember coming out of Bradford after a curry one night onto M62 to head back to Leeds and then out to Harrogate.

I ended up going all along under M62 through Birstall and all those places at around 11pm.
Lovely stuff. Not.

No idea it was happening either, despite having driven in that way five hours earlier.


Is it an M62 thing?

TUS373

Original Poster:

5,030 posts

303 months

Sunday 5th November 2023
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I think it may be.

M62 is a crucial motorway (aren't they all?), the shortest path from A to B. Its bad when there is an accident. It is excruciating when it is closed for maintenance.

I understand maintenance is a requirement, and they try and do it at the quietest times - would be good though if they tell you what is happening in time to make a decision to either not use it, find another route, or tough it out. It is taking the proverbial then when you get on, carry on 10 miles, then find the next junction, the one you want, is closed and you have to make a 14 mile detour! Grrrrrrr.

Wackywoo105

434 posts

112 months

Monday 6th November 2023
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I regularly travel the M62 at night. I've been caught out loads by this over the years.