Family Estate - Gen3 Octavia 2.0 TDi DSG?
Family Estate - Gen3 Octavia 2.0 TDi DSG?
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dhutch

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17,601 posts

224 months

Monday 6th November 2023
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Anyone got any improvements on this as a plan?

- I believe from elsewhere they will be 6sp DQ250 wet clutch box. (1.4/1.5TSi and 1.6 TDi is the 7sp dry DQ200)
- Struggling to find any significant advantages to the 2017 facelift beyond aesthetic changes?
- Downsides to the 181bhp VRs vs the stock 147bhp model?
- Downsides (upsides) to the 4wd version for normal road use?
- Is it daft to go older than 2013 and get a late 11 plate Gen2?
- Would rather avoid a boring colour, in favour of a red or blue one!
- Struggle to stretch the budget to the Petrol 2.0 TSI VRS. Sub £10k target, less the better....

Based on the Wirral, northwest.

Will do around 10k PA, mainly motorways miles to work and family holidays to the lakes.
Two large/med dogs and a toddler.

White 4WD 2Tdi £8.8k Keighley https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202307270...
Blue Gen2 2Tdi VRS £7k Prenton https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202308301...
Grey 2Tdi Elegance £8 Wirral https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202310233...
Blue Gen2 TFSI vRS £10 Crewe https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202309282...
White 2 Tdi VRs Manual £13 Lytham St.A https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202310203...
White 2 Tsi Vrs £15k Chester https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202309011...
Red 2 Tsi Vrs £16 Shefield https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202310243...
Red 2 TDI Vrs £16 Fo Winsford https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202306299...


Thoughts welcome....

Shabaza

288 posts

124 months

Monday 6th November 2023
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Upside to the facelift spec is it gets a nicer infotainment system with apple car play/android auto as standard.
The SEL spec which I have also has half leather/suede type seats. But more importantly it has LED headlights which are so much better then the candle lit halogens.

The downside being all the facelifts are post march 2017 so road tax isnt £30 but rather £180 per year.

I wouldnt worry about gearbox, the DSG problems or yesteryear Ive heard mainly apply to 2013 and before so Mk2 mainly.

beyond that, I would say dont discount th hatch over an estate, even the boot size of the hatch is cavernous and the cabin noise is slightly less boomy

dhutch

Original Poster:

17,601 posts

224 months

Thursday 9th November 2023
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Shabaza said:
Upside to the facelift spec is it gets a nicer infotainment system with apple car play/android auto as standard.
The SEL spec which I have also has half leather/suede type seats. But more importantly it has LED headlights which are so much better then the candle lit halogens.

The downside being all the facelifts are post march 2017 so road tax isnt £30 but rather £180 per year.

I wouldnt worry about gearbox, the DSG problems or yesteryear Ive heard mainly apply to 2013 and before so Mk2 mainly.

beyond that, I would say dont discount th hatch over an estate, even the boot size of the hatch is cavernous and the cabin noise is slightly less boomy
Fair, the MiL had the half leathers and LED lights I think, don't think either of us have used apple/andriod but good spec would be well on the list, I would rather nice spec then less miles. The 'SE L' spec appears to be a common good one so thats a good steet, ditto headlights. Extra 150/yr tax is annoying but not a deal breaker.

Hopefully get to look at one or two tomorrow and or some more over the weekend.

Mercdriver

3,000 posts

60 months

Thursday 9th November 2023
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I bought 2.0 litre 4x4 petrol with dsg after driving mercs for years, well pleased with it, comfy, roomy and more than enough power even in standard mode. Agree with comment about estate being a bit noisy compared to saloon, maybe down to cheap tyres that were fitted before I purchased

The saloon does have a large boot, might be more than enough for your needs, I struggled to get model and spec I wanted they seem to sell fast.

dhutch

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17,601 posts

224 months

Friday 10th November 2023
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dhutch said:
Well, I went to look at this car today, and wasn't impressed with what I saw.to be honest.

I know it's the VRS, and used car prices are a lot higher than they where, but Christ! Wet carpets, baggy seats all round, lots of interior wear and scratches, lots of scratches around all the door handles, rust on the bootlid around the number plate and lots of rust underneath. Both rear clusters and one of the headlights full of water.

Honestly feels older and more tired than my 2001 reg 199k E46, and slower to 60 to boot, for more money!?

Mercdriver

3,000 posts

60 months

Friday 10th November 2023
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Sounds like it has been in a floodsmile run a mile but I guess you have already done that

Belle427

11,688 posts

260 months

Friday 10th November 2023
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Maybe a Superb would be better value, a £300 remap would up the power slightly if required.
Just an example.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202310253...

MDMA .

10,510 posts

128 months

Friday 10th November 2023
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dhutch said:
Thoughts welcome....
Avoid Keighley wink

Glosphil

4,836 posts

261 months

Friday 10th November 2023
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Shabaza said:
Upside to the facelift spec is it gets a nicer infotainment system with apple car play/android auto as standard.
The SEL spec which I have also has half leather/suede type seats. But more importantly it has LED headlights which are so much better then the candle lit halogens.

The downside being all the facelifts are post march 2017 so road tax isnt £30 but rather £180 per year.

I wouldnt worry about gearbox, the DSG problems or yesteryear Ive heard mainly apply to 2013 and before so Mk2 mainly.

beyond that, I would say dont discount th hatch over an estate, even the boot size of the hatch is cavernous and the cabin noise is slightly less boomy
The hatch & estate have the same size boot up to the window line. Above that the sloping rear of the hatch reduces the capacity.

dhutch

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17,601 posts

224 months

Friday 10th November 2023
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MDMA . said:
dhutch said:
Thoughts welcome....
Avoid Keighley wink
Fair. Too far away anyway.

dhutch

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17,601 posts

224 months

Friday 10th November 2023
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Mercdriver said:
Sounds like it has been in a floodsmile
Run a mile but I guess you have already done that
Deffo ran, ex-flood is an interesting option!

dhutch

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17,601 posts

224 months

Friday 10th November 2023
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Glosphil said:
The hatch & estate have the same size boot up to the window line. Above that the sloping rear of the hatch reduces the capacity.
Have two large dogs...

dhutch

Original Poster:

17,601 posts

224 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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Originally went to see the Volvo (local, less of them around) but as it was at a Skoda dealership and the other hot contender is the Octavia, seemed mad not too.

Obviously they conveniently only had a 70 plate gen4 in stock. When it's really the gen3 we where looking at.

It was very nice. Smoother power delivery and change on the 6sp Octi than the Volvo 8sp auto.

Volvo has the badge appeal from the front, but on every other measure, the Skoda wins it for me.


georgeyboy12345

4,547 posts

62 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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The red vRS from Sheffield is the best. Unsurprisingly, it's also the most expensive.


dhutch

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17,601 posts

224 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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And the most thirsty!

The more we look, the more the budget increases, I continue to be amazed how much used car prices have rocketed, even though I knew they had before we started looking.

The above Octi is a 70plate Gen4, 2/0 TDI 6pd DSG, and I must say it was very nice. But it was also 21k.

Although it looks odd, the little flippy gear switch works well, better than the clunky shifter in the Volvo, and it has flappy paddles!

Bit weird have no temp control knobs, radio volume etc, on the dash.

nick1871

427 posts

139 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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georgeyboy12345 said:
The red vRS from Sheffield is the best. Unsurprisingly, it's also the most expensive.
Agreed, if funds allow I’d be looking at this one. It’s the launch edition 245 so comes with some extra kit as standard as well as a few useful options on this one.

georgeyboy12345

4,547 posts

62 months

Sunday 12th November 2023
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dhutch said:
And the most thirsty!
What are you basing that off? I wouldn’t pay too much attention to the official mpg figures. The 4WD models will be the most thirsty, but really they’ll all be much of a muchness as they are all 2.0 TDIs and weigh approximately the same.

dhutch

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17,601 posts

224 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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georgeyboy12345 said:
dhutch said:
And the most thirsty!
What are you basing that off? I wouldn’t pay too much attention to the official mpg figures.
Mixture of the figures, but also a couple of anecdotal and or second hand comments on various forums about them being such.

We are currently also looking at the Volvo V60 and it appears to be the same crack when comparing the D4 (or D3) with the petrol T4.

dhutch

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17,601 posts

224 months

Monday 20th November 2023
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Ironically, it now looks like the car coming out on top will the 190bhp T4 engine V60.

Because the particularly car is a nice example, with a lot of spec options ticked.
My calcs based on the official figures and current fuel prices suggest the petrol will cost around 25% or £500 a year more than the D4 or D3 diesel.