Can a private person, issue parking tickets to people..,
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...who illegally park/block my private parking?
I have a private parking space behind my house in London and often people decide to park/block it despite having tons of pay and display spaces all over the area. As you can imagine this is very annoying.
I have a camera that covers this area/entrance and I wonder if there's a way for me to issue legally enforceable tickets to those drivers?
I'm guessing the easiest way is to work with soe private parking enforcement company and share the evidence with them? I'm not looking to make money just to teach those idiots a lesson. Sadly there seems to be an endless supply of idiots...
Advice is appreciated, thank you
I have a private parking space behind my house in London and often people decide to park/block it despite having tons of pay and display spaces all over the area. As you can imagine this is very annoying.
I have a camera that covers this area/entrance and I wonder if there's a way for me to issue legally enforceable tickets to those drivers?
I'm guessing the easiest way is to work with soe private parking enforcement company and share the evidence with them? I'm not looking to make money just to teach those idiots a lesson. Sadly there seems to be an endless supply of idiots...
Advice is appreciated, thank you
Clamp car, leave note from fictitious company with number of PAYG mobile. Generally mess them about when they call, put on hold, leave mobile next to radio playing 'drill music'. Remove clamp after they've gone so it looks like you had nothing to do with it. Actually this sounds like fun, might remove some of the frustration of the situation.
TB404 said:
Richtea1970 said:
Buy a generic wheel clamping sign off of EBay, put it up on your space, buy a wheel clamp. Charge whatever you like to release it.
Thanks, would that be legal? I also don't want to have to argue/fight with those clamped people https://www.parkingcowboys.co.uk/parking-tickets/
lancslad58 said:
TB404 said:
Richtea1970 said:
Buy a generic wheel clamping sign off of EBay, put it up on your space, buy a wheel clamp. Charge whatever you like to release it.
Thanks, would that be legal? I also don't want to have to argue/fight with those clamped people https://www.parkingcowboys.co.uk/parking-tickets/
TB404 said:
...who illegally park/block my private parking?
I have a private parking space behind my house in London and often people decide to park/block it despite having tons of pay and display spaces all over the area. As you can imagine this is very annoying.
There's your problem. Human nature.I have a private parking space behind my house in London and often people decide to park/block it despite having tons of pay and display spaces all over the area. As you can imagine this is very annoying.
Can't you install some pop up anti theft pole, so they can't drive onto the space?
Silvanus said:
Just put a cheap clamp/ chain and lock on the wheel, then do absolutely nothing, leave them to sort it out on their own
They take minutes to remove, and tbh does the OP really want the aggro of dealing with a knuckle dragging mouthbreather if and when it ramps up? No. Fit a parking post, or ask the owner of the parking spaces to do so.andburg said:
OP said blocking, not parking in their space.
a key diference which a bollard will not help
A key difference to the entire question too. Yes you can ticket someone using the space, so long as you're able to put up a suitable sign, such that the parkee is forming a contract with you and then breaching it. a key diference which a bollard will not help
But if they're not entering the space, then they're infringing your right to access your space rather than breaching a contract. All you can do there is sue them for damages, your damages would broadly be the cost of you using one of the pay and display spaces, though things may get more expensive if there's no spaces available.
The main problem you will find is meeting the threshold for obtaining the Registered Keeper's address from the DVLA.
As the Landowner you can engage a PPC to run the ticketing side for you and signage will need to be put up. It's unlikely they will want to deal with one space. The current PPC defence of "I was not the driver and I am not require to name the driver" is putting a kybosh on many tickets.
If the parking space is that precious/valuable then use gates, barriers or other physical items.
If the parking space is that precious/valuable then use gates, barriers or other physical items.
Maybe "NO PARKING" line writing on the tarmac?
The basic premise of the private parking ticket is that the act of parking in a place where you are notified via signage that it is private land causes you to enter a contract with the land owner. The contract they enter is that they will pay you for the parking according to the terms of the contract. If they don't fulfil their side of it then they open themselves up to debt recovery.
The basic premise of the private parking ticket is that the act of parking in a place where you are notified via signage that it is private land causes you to enter a contract with the land owner. The contract they enter is that they will pay you for the parking according to the terms of the contract. If they don't fulfil their side of it then they open themselves up to debt recovery.
If they block access to the parking space when it is empty, are they even guilty of an offence?
IANAL, but I seem to have read more than once that blocking a car which is already on a driveway/in a parking space is an offence (because you're preventing the owner from using it), but it's not an offence to block an empty drive/space. Equally I've seen internet discussions (I know, I know) which suggest that parking in somebody else's drive/space may be a trespass, but in the real world it would be very difficult for the owner of the drive/space to obtain any redress, especially it it was a one-off.
In practical terms, perhaps the OP could put up a bollard with a notice on it saying "Please don't block access to this space", which might reduce if not eliminate the number of people blocking it?
IANAL, but I seem to have read more than once that blocking a car which is already on a driveway/in a parking space is an offence (because you're preventing the owner from using it), but it's not an offence to block an empty drive/space. Equally I've seen internet discussions (I know, I know) which suggest that parking in somebody else's drive/space may be a trespass, but in the real world it would be very difficult for the owner of the drive/space to obtain any redress, especially it it was a one-off.
In practical terms, perhaps the OP could put up a bollard with a notice on it saying "Please don't block access to this space", which might reduce if not eliminate the number of people blocking it?
https://www.getsurrey.co.uk/lifestyle/your-rights-...
This might be of interest - an article by a firm of solicitors
https://www.wilsonbrowne.co.uk/news/personal/what-...
The Highway Code does say “Do not stop or park in front of an entrance to a property” in rule 243 but this is purely advisory. If it said “Must not…” then it would be against the law. So it does seem that the law is a bit of an ass!
You aren’t permitted to use cones to mark out a space outside your house unless the police or local council have given you specific permission for construction workers, a funeral, etc. You can apply to your council to have a white line painted in front of your driveway.
Perhaps you could give the offender a bit of their own medicine....
This might be of interest - an article by a firm of solicitors
https://www.wilsonbrowne.co.uk/news/personal/what-...
The Highway Code does say “Do not stop or park in front of an entrance to a property” in rule 243 but this is purely advisory. If it said “Must not…” then it would be against the law. So it does seem that the law is a bit of an ass!
You aren’t permitted to use cones to mark out a space outside your house unless the police or local council have given you specific permission for construction workers, a funeral, etc. You can apply to your council to have a white line painted in front of your driveway.
Perhaps you could give the offender a bit of their own medicine....
Edited by alfaspecial on Thursday 9th November 13:30
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