Motorcyclist filmed himself doing 150mph
Discussion
https://news.sky.com/video/rider-prosecuted-for-da...
My favourite part was when he braked too late for the roundabout and had to push his bike back as everyone he overtook drove past him. Thankfully nobody else was going around it at the time.
I’m surprised he only got a 12 month ban though.
My favourite part was when he braked too late for the roundabout and had to push his bike back as everyone he overtook drove past him. Thankfully nobody else was going around it at the time.
I’m surprised he only got a 12 month ban though.
Edited by Mr Miata on Friday 10th November 12:30
Evanivitch said:
Yeah, bit odd that. Are police routinely going to confiscate dashcam footage when stopping people for vehicle condition? Sounds a bit suspect...
If you read the Police plate, it was the dodgy plate that got him noticed by an officer when he joined the A road. Officer then followed him for some time and observed him doing various naughty things. When he finally slowed after leaving the A road the officer stopped him, noticed the dashcam and seized it as evidence. On there was footage from earlier in the day which had more offences.So it wasn't just the dodgy plate that got him tugged.
ChocolateFrog said:
Can they just confiscate your memory cards like that? Answer would seem obvious I suppose.
What would they do if you took it out and refused to hand it over or destroyed it?
Section 19 of PACE (Police and Criminal Evidence Act covers the seizure of the memory card and the relevant part states:What would they do if you took it out and refused to hand it over or destroyed it?
Edited by ChocolateFrog on Friday 10th November 13:19
"the officer may seize property if they reasonably believe that:
the property is evidence in relation to an offence which they are investigating or any other offence; and
that it is necessary to seize it in order to prevent the evidence being concealed, lost, altered or destroyed."
So yes in the circumstances the Police can seize the memory card and if the owner refused to hand it over or destroyed it then it would be a further offence
Simpo Two said:
Taking the left field, I wonder what copyright law pertains in this case to video footage which is (C) the miscreant being used on Sky News, presumably without the owner's consent?
That is indeed a very left-fleld thing to think about.....I believe copyright law wouldn't apply to dashcam footage as there would be no creativity in its creation (might be different if it were edited footage posted online by the offender). It's just a real-time recording of the world.
Simpo Two said:
Taking the left field, I wonder what copyright law pertains in this case to video footage which is (C) the miscreant being used on Sky News, presumably without the owner's consent?
None.If anybody has edited created that video, it would have been Essex Police/the news agency.
That encounter with the roundabout made my toes curl
Tom1312 said:
None.
Perhaps, but where does it say that?I'm a photographer and former videographer. If I take a photo or video footage of a road (regardless of creativity or editing), I own the copyright of that image/footage and nobody can use it without my permission. If anyone was to copy it, use it, edit it, or broadcast it, they're in breach of copyright.
Perhaps there's a law that says dashcam footage is exempt, or that if you've broken the law it becomes exempt, in which case fill yer boots. It makes for interesting viewing, but I just wondered by what legal route it got to Sky TV.
Simpo Two said:
Perhaps, but where does it say that?
I'm a photographer and former videographer. If I take a photo or video footage of a road (regardless of creativity or editing), I own the copyright of that image/footage and nobody can use it without my permission. If anyone was to copy it, use it, edit it, or broadcast it, they're in breach of copyright.
Perhaps there's a law that says dashcam footage is exempt, or that if you've broken the law it becomes exempt, in which case fill yer boots. It makes for interesting viewing, but I just wondered by what legal route it got to Sky TV.
It could be exhibited in criminal proceedings without your permission. Although you may have a valid point about the maker retaining copyright outside of those proceedings. I'm not a copyright guy, so I wouldn't want to give an opinion.I'm a photographer and former videographer. If I take a photo or video footage of a road (regardless of creativity or editing), I own the copyright of that image/footage and nobody can use it without my permission. If anyone was to copy it, use it, edit it, or broadcast it, they're in breach of copyright.
Perhaps there's a law that says dashcam footage is exempt, or that if you've broken the law it becomes exempt, in which case fill yer boots. It makes for interesting viewing, but I just wondered by what legal route it got to Sky TV.
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