Reliable used cars
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thebullettrain

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1,069 posts

266 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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Long story short: I need a reliable used car. The recent banger experience at £1k didn’t work with the 20 year old 100k plus miles car having issue after issue.

My budget is now £12k and I want the newest lowest mileage car I can get. My fiend says I can get a reliable car for half that price.

It needs to be a nice car too, but has to handle a 70 mile commute once a week, and then a 500 mile trip once a month when I have to visit head office.

Some cars I’ve seen :

Abarth 595 (2020) - £12k - probably not really an option, but looks and sounds good.

Ford Fiesta ST Line (2020) - £11.5 - really surprising driver dynamics.

Thoughts?


Edited by thebullettrain on Saturday 11th November 08:17

Shappers24

987 posts

113 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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Reliable and Fiat don’t usually appear in the same category… my Abarth in my short ownership have multiple sensor failings and broken trim/door handles. It didn’t feel built to last, but it was comparatively cheap.

Toyota and Lexus are known for being bulletproof. But they’re very different propositions to an Abarth or Fiesta…


Mouse Rat

2,071 posts

119 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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Honda Jazz would probably be the safest option.

Alternatively look at what Taxi drivers use
Toyota Prius
Lexus IS
Merc W212 220d

etc



kambites

71,205 posts

248 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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The question screams "Korean" to me. I'd be looking for something like a Kia Ceed or Hyundai i30.

AlphaDelta

340 posts

72 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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Of those I’d take the fiesta every time. Especially if you can find a used one with a decent spec. Good driving dynamics, cheap maintenance costs and heated seats & quick clear windscreen are great in winter.

Jawls

789 posts

78 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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Reliable cars are easily available for half your budget. As others have suggested, I’d be going Korean. It won’t be fun, but it’ll work. The issue is that it seems you don’t only want a reliable car. Instead, you want reliable, “nice” (never really defined), and given your immediate shortlist, fun or sporty. And that does narrow the field somewhat.

You don’t say what your non-commuting use cases are. Are there family duties?

There’s a huge gap between 100k miles £1k cars and £12k cars too. A £1k car today would have been a £400 car 4 years ago.

GolfDragon

291 posts

94 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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Get a Golf Mk7 or 7.5.

It's a bit vanilla but they are well equipped and don't wear you down after driving 400+ miles in a day. Running costs should be straightforward as well

Truckosaurus

13,138 posts

311 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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When I opened a post about reliable cars and the first 2 suggestions were a Fiat and Fiesta most likely with the dodgy wet belt ecoboost engine I was somewhat surprised.

They will both be entertaining cars, but that wasn't the question.

I'd be trying to find a Suzuki Swift Sport Boosterjet that should just be in budget. (or one of the previous generation as a 'reliable car for half that budget')

Or be dull but reliable and go for a Jazz, Yaris, Auris, etc.

Alex_225

7,576 posts

228 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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If you have £12k to spend you'll get something modern enough to largely be reliable by default. If you're looking at older cars and a lot less cash then you'd need to be a little more particular.

I bought a 12 year old E Class for £4k with 100k already on the clock, it never ever let me down. I did 1k a month in it and did 40k overall. Genuinely one of the best cars I've owned.

stupidbutkeen

1,025 posts

182 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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If your just looking for a realiable car, Look for a lexus/toyota.
You could easy get a ct200h, Mine is a 2016 with 77k miles and its only worth aprrox 10k now for example.


r1ch

2,953 posts

223 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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I think a Ford focus or Honda Civic would do the job. Probably what I’d look at.

Old Merc

3,805 posts

194 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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I would go for anything Japanese or German. After lots of research I`ve just bought an Audi A3 1.4 TFSi . The post 2014 1.4 petrol models get rave reviews on reliability and economy, 50+ mpg and £20 road tax. Mine has a full history since new, only faults in 50K miles were a couple of ABS sensors. Don't be put off by tales of huge Audi Dealer servicing costs. Any decent small Indy will be able to look after one.
As with any used car its a matter of how the car was used and maintained, plus luck?

AlmostUseful

3,319 posts

227 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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Alex_225 said:
If you have £12k to spend you'll get something modern enough to largely be reliable by default. If you're looking at older cars and a lot less cash then you'd need to be a little more particular.

I bought a 12 year old E Class for £4k with 100k already on the clock, it never ever let me down. I did 1k a month in it and did 40k overall. Genuinely one of the best cars I've owned.
Granted mine was newer, but I’d echo the merc option. I bought a 75k mile 5 year old E220 cdi (we’re they CDI in 2014? I can’t remember) and in 3 years and by the time I sold it with 135k miles it never missed a beat. Drove it long distance, short distance, loaded with builders crap for tip runs, sat idling in traffic for hours and it was perfect every time.

Not exactly an abarth, but I sold it for 9k a few years ago so it’s probably a 6k car now and it’ll keep going as long as you service it I guess.

Jamescrs

6,225 posts

92 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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I wouldn't want to do a 500 mile trip, even half that assuming a round trip in a Fiat 500 or a Fiesta, it would be a horrible experience unless you are particularly short i'd go for something at least Golf sized, probably a Toyota hybrid if reliability is the main priority

swisstoni

23,390 posts

306 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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stupidbutkeen said:
If your just looking for a realiable car, Look for a lexus/toyota.
You could easy get a ct200h, Mine is a 2016 with 77k miles and its only worth aprrox 10k now for example.
I’d agree with that. If you’d rather not see the inside of a dealership from one year to another, just buy a Lexus.

Monkeylegend

28,877 posts

258 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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AlmostUseful said:
Alex_225 said:
If you have £12k to spend you'll get something modern enough to largely be reliable by default. If you're looking at older cars and a lot less cash then you'd need to be a little more particular.

I bought a 12 year old E Class for £4k with 100k already on the clock, it never ever let me down. I did 1k a month in it and did 40k overall. Genuinely one of the best cars I've owned.
Granted mine was newer, but I’d echo the merc option. I bought a 75k mile 5 year old E220 cdi (we’re they CDI in 2014? I can’t remember) and in 3 years and by the time I sold it with 135k miles it never missed a beat. Drove it long distance, short distance, loaded with builders crap for tip runs, sat idling in traffic for hours and it was perfect every time.
Just make sure you check the rear subframe for rust, and if it has adblue .................................run.

Smint

3,288 posts

62 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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Just be aware with Auris hybrid (not sure about Lexus) the CAT is exposed so worth fitting something underneath to make it more difficult (painful?) to remove by low lifes.

AlmostUseful

3,319 posts

227 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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Monkeylegend said:
Just make sure you check the rear subframe for rust, and if it has adblue .................................run.
Ah, yeah, mine wasn’t an adblue one.

Assume no rust, can’t recall ever looking but imagine the MOT man would have picked it up.

Anyway, great car!

Monkeylegend

28,877 posts

258 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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AlmostUseful said:
Monkeylegend said:
Just make sure you check the rear subframe for rust, and if it has adblue .................................run.
Ah, yeah, mine wasn’t an adblue one.

Assume no rust, can’t recall ever looking but imagine the MOT man would have picked it up.

Anyway, great car!
The subframe issue is now very common and it creeps up on you as they rust from the inside out, so a clean MOT this year might be hiding a problem next year.


Sometimes the first thing you know about it is when the rear suspension collapses.


Edited by Monkeylegend on Saturday 11th November 11:39

samoht

7,125 posts

173 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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Generally you want something Japanese with a normally aspirated petrol (piston!) engine for best reliability. Then just be aware of rust.

My 2007 Merc has been relatively pricey to keep running. You may get lucky, and there are at least specialists out there who can keep them on the road for less, but they feel a couple of steps less reliable than the Japanese cars I've had.


I'd go Toyota or Lexus.