MG4 XPower - bargain of the year?

MG4 XPower - bargain of the year?

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Porridge GTI

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Saturday 11th November 2023
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Well the EX30 is a squib.

James6112

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ajap1979

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189 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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Tycho

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275 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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ajap1979 said:
How about comparing it to another ev? The golf is also £10k more expensive. The XPower is a bargain looking at other EVs with the same power IMO. I did try one and put an order in but cancelled it and I'm getting a Model 3 LR RWD in just over a week. I changed my mind due to the range, build quality, suicidal land keep assist and the fact that you get the Supercharger network with a Tesla. However for the price of the MG the performance is brilliant.

P675

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34 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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Porridge GTI said:
Well the EX30 is a squib.
I did think it would be much cheaper, like £30k. The Xpower, might be a good used buy in a year.

ajap1979

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Saturday 11th November 2023
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Tycho said:
ajap1979 said:
How about comparing it to another ev? The golf is also £10k more expensive. The XPower is a bargain looking at other EVs with the same power IMO. I did try one and put an order in but cancelled it and I'm getting a Model 3 LR RWD in just over a week. I changed my mind due to the range, build quality, suicidal land keep assist and the fact that you get the Supercharger network with a Tesla. However for the price of the MG the performance is brilliant.
Watch the comparison. They think the standard car is better than the XPower. Therein lies the problem with perceived “performance” EVs. It’s very easy to generate huge power and impressive acceleration, but when the rest of the car doesn’t match up you end up with something that is incredibly underwhelming.

Tycho

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275 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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ajap1979 said:
Tycho said:
ajap1979 said:
How about comparing it to another ev? The golf is also £10k more expensive. The XPower is a bargain looking at other EVs with the same power IMO. I did try one and put an order in but cancelled it and I'm getting a Model 3 LR RWD in just over a week. I changed my mind due to the range, build quality, suicidal land keep assist and the fact that you get the Supercharger network with a Tesla. However for the price of the MG the performance is brilliant.
Watch the comparison. They think the standard car is better than the XPower. Therein lies the problem with perceived “performance” EVs. It’s very easy to generate huge power and impressive acceleration, but when the rest of the car doesn’t match up you end up with something that is incredibly underwhelming.
I did watch the video. The lower power one might be better for purists but that doesn't mean that the XPower one isn't a bargain for the performance vs price.

Paul_M3

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Saturday 11th November 2023
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ajap1979 said:
Watch the comparison. They think the standard car is better than the XPower. Therein lies the problem with perceived “performance” EVs. It’s very easy to generate huge power and impressive acceleration, but when the rest of the car doesn’t match up you end up with something that is incredibly underwhelming.
Because they were trying to treat it as a hot hatch. That’s not what it is in my opinion.

If you think of it as a nice daily driver with great straight performance / overtaking ability then it makes more sense. And is very much a bargain.

I’ve got one on order for next year when my existing Peugeot lease ends. I expect it to be good at daily duties, and with the ability to make you smile with its performance. I don’t expect it to be a drivers car, that’s what weekend toys are for.

ajap1979

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Saturday 11th November 2023
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^^ And isn’t that how the EX30 should be viewed?

Tycho

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Saturday 11th November 2023
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ajap1979 said:
^^ And isn’t that how the EX30 should be viewed?
Probably, I was going to be looking at the Volvo but it seems really cramped in the back. I think the only real hot hatch EV at the moment is the fiat 500 Abarth.

Paul_M3

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187 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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ajap1979 said:
^^ And isn’t that how the EX30 should be viewed?
Yes, obviously. What’s your point? This thread title is about the MG4 being a relative bargain, and that the EX30 maybe isn’t as good/cheap as was expected.

You’re the one who brought a basically irrelevant MG4 vs Golf hot hatch video into it saying the MG4 looks poor. Has anybody on here said that the problem / disappointment with the EX30 is that it isn’t a good hot hatch?

ajap1979

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Sunday 12th November 2023
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Paul_M3 said:
Yes, obviously. What’s your point? This thread title is about the MG4 being a relative bargain, and that the EX30 maybe isn’t as good/cheap as was expected.

You’re the one who brought a basically irrelevant MG4 vs Golf hot hatch video into it saying the MG4 looks poor. Has anybody on here said that the problem / disappointment with the EX30 is that it isn’t a good hot hatch?
Let’s just say the thread title and the first post don’t exactly match. Reading across other threads it feels like the expectation is that because of the perceived performance of both cars they’re both going to be fun to drive, like a hot hatch. I posted the video not because the comparison against a Golf R is relevant, but because it’s the only video I’ve seen where it’s hot hatch credentials are brought into focus, and ultimately the reviewer claims that the standard car is more resolved.

So to answer the question, no I don’t think it is a bargain, but I do think the standard car is.

Paul_M3

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Sunday 12th November 2023
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ajap1979 said:
So to answer the question, no I don’t think it is a bargain, but I do think the standard car is.
I’m fairness, we are probably looking at it from slightly different perspectives. There are probably quite a few people currently in the market for these cars who are leasing either privately or via a salary sacrifice scheme. And the value there often doesn’t reflect the purchase price. For me personally this is what makes it a bargain.

I’ve got an Xpower on order with a lease of 30 months and 10,000 miles a year.

The net cost to me is £375 a month. There’s no upfront payment, and the lease includes all maintenance, insurance, and any tyres it needs.

Even the new MG4 Extended Range (which is the same price to buy outright) was about £100 a month more expensive on the scheme when I looked.

I can’t remember the exact cost of the cheapest MG4, but I think it was only £50 a month cheaper than the Xpower.

sideways sid

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Monday 13th November 2023
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P675 said:
I did think it would be much cheaper, like £30k. The Xpower, might be a good used buy in a year.
3 on AT today <GBP31k pre-registered, so not far off already.

nordboy

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52 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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Drove one today, very quick indeed, but in the wet struggled a bit to put the power down and didn't instil me much with the handling. Felt a bit cheap and nasty inside. Not sure what the range would be like, it dropped dramatically while I was driving it, to be fair, I wasn't hanging around though.

That's only initial observations mind you.

Porridge GTI

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104 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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I speak as an XPower owner. YouTube videos and expert commentary is all fine but I know what I like. The thing is a scream.

BenEK9

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Tuesday 14th November 2023
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Porridge GTI said:
I speak as an XPower owner. YouTube videos and expert commentary is all fine but I know what I like. The thing is a scream.
who listens to experts

Porridge GTI

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Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Who reads car reviews?

Downward

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Tuesday 30th January
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Paul_M3 said:
ajap1979 said:
So to answer the question, no I don’t think it is a bargain, but I do think the standard car is.
I’m fairness, we are probably looking at it from slightly different perspectives. There are probably quite a few people currently in the market for these cars who are leasing either privately or via a salary sacrifice scheme. And the value there often doesn’t reflect the purchase price. For me personally this is what makes it a bargain.

I’ve got an Xpower on order with a lease of 30 months and 10,000 miles a year.

The net cost to me is £375 a month. There’s no upfront payment, and the lease includes all maintenance, insurance, and any tyres it needs.

Even the new MG4 Extended Range (which is the same price to buy outright) was about £100 a month more expensive on the scheme when I looked.

I can’t remember the exact cost of the cheapest MG4, but I think it was only £50 a month cheaper than the Xpower.
Down to £315 now.
And as Insurance on them is £60 a month and £18 a month for an annual service it’s not badly priced at all.