RE: Flamboyant HiPhi A lays down 1305hp gauntlet
RE: Flamboyant HiPhi A lays down 1305hp gauntlet
Wednesday 15th November 2023

Flamboyant HiPhi A lays down 1305hp gauntlet

China's sleeping EV giant hasn't given Europe much to worry about - does the 'ultimate four-door' change that?


We haven’t talked a lot about Chinese manufacturer HiPhi - but that isn’t for want of global significance. In case you didn’t know, the EV startup is killing it in its gargantuan domestic market, and tentatively launched in Europe earlier this year (most notably in plug-in-adoring Norway). In time, it will launch in the UK, and bring with it a design-led saloon and SUV, named Z and X respectively. Each is likely to retail for around £100k in the upmarket electric car segment. 

But this isn’t them. Likely sensing that it will need something with a bit more ankle on display in the not-too-distant future - not to mention the kind of absurd output boast that commands headlines - the firm has revealed the new 1305hp HiPhi A via a livestream event from Shanghai ahead of a physical reveal at the Guangzhou Auto Show. Its maker calls it a hypercar - which is just the sort of tosh an EV startup comes out with - but describing it as the ‘ultimate 4-door 4-seater’ is certainly nearer the mark. 

Built in partnership with something called WESAIL New Energy Automotive (no, us neither - but think bleeding-edge electric motor tech) the A inevitably boasts startling on-paper performance figures. Elsewhere on the internet, it has been breathlessly suggested that it might be sufficient to challenge the likes of the Rimac Nevera (yeah right - perhaps if it were made of papier-mâché) but even leaving aside the hyperbole, there’s no denying that 62mph ‘in just over 2 seconds’ and a targeted top speed of 187mph is brisk even by loopy EV standards. 

Of course, that’s what you tend to get these days if you opt for a tri-motor layout (one at the front, two to the rear) backed up by 800v architecture and a new battery pack which is said to discharge 1.5MW of power at its peak. HiPhi declines to detail the overall capacity of that battery or the individual output of the motors, but suggests that everything is cutting edge - not least because the A is the first model that features a powertrain developed in-house. 

Accordingly, expect innovative features like a carbon fiber bullet-proof bottom shield for the battery and a ‘fireproof sprayed carbon fibre top cover’ too. Composite features in the rotors of the new motors too (handy when they're claimed to peak at 22,000rpm) and - we assume - in a body that incorporates ‘extra wide tyres’. You’ll likely be wanting those, no doubt - and the rear-wheel active steer, uprated torque vectoring and continuously variable dampers that HiPhi reckons have improved cornering by 15 per cent (presumably compared with the Z). No word on what it weighs, mind - but expect a near-as-makes-no-difference 50/50 distribution of whatever it is. 

As for the dramatic look, HiPhi says it pays ‘tribute to the classics while looking firmly to the future’ - which is another way of saying it builds on the manufacturer’s current box of tricks with some serious-looking aero addenda. Apparently, the development process will benefit from a collaboration with the Intelligent Manufacturing System Center of ShanghaiTech University, with a view to maximising the potential of 3D printing technology. We await more details on that and much else, but HiPhi is aiming for a ‘limited series run’ in early 2025. Just when it needs to remind British buyers that there is a new-kid-on-the-block alternative to the Taycan. 


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ChrisCh86

Original Poster:

1,128 posts

74 months

Wednesday 15th November 2023
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An unknown brand selling a car at £100k+?

Yeah, good luck with that in the European / UK market...

fantheman80

2,634 posts

79 months

Wednesday 15th November 2023
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Ah good, we have not had an argument on here about buying Chinese in at least 48 hours, will go just get the butterkist

On the car itself, if they were doing a/another robocop remake Clarence Boddicker would drive that

SDK

3,552 posts

283 months

Wednesday 15th November 2023
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The car for everyone who posted saying the ID7 looked boring bounce

paradigital

1,104 posts

182 months

Wednesday 15th November 2023
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For when Batman settles down with a wife and kids.

WCZ

11,518 posts

224 months

Wednesday 15th November 2023
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£100k for 1300hp seems decent value and a forecast of what's to come!

off topic but how come no article on the release/press drives of the sf90xx?

CG2020UK

2,975 posts

70 months

Wednesday 15th November 2023
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Looks pretty cool.

In a weird way it’s actually pretty good value for money compared to your poverty spec 385bhp Porsche 911 that also costs £100k.

However the power numbers are now just silly to the point I just don’t care anymore.

fantheman80

2,634 posts

79 months

Wednesday 15th November 2023
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just noticed the LCDs on the door - "pick up for John Smith" - very handy

Kipsrs

713 posts

79 months

Wednesday 15th November 2023
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As an answer to the question, no!!

Gordon Hill

2,412 posts

45 months

Wednesday 15th November 2023
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Holy smoke, does it come with a free Bruce Wayne and boy wonder ?

NDNDNDND

2,546 posts

213 months

Wednesday 15th November 2023
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Gordon Hill said:
Holy smoke, does it come with a free Bruce Wayne and boy wonder ?
No, it comes with a free Uighur slave you can chain to a stake in your garden.

Demonix

830 posts

242 months

Wednesday 15th November 2023
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Mega stats, interesting/ brutal styling, more EV market competition is good, Kia, Hyundai, MG have produced reasonably priced options but apart from Rimac the electric hyper/super car is still the established players. 100k is a lot to drop on a little known manufacturer.

dunnoreally

1,356 posts

138 months

Wednesday 15th November 2023
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To sum up the next 200 angry posts: looks quite nice, you may or may not care that the Chinese government might possibly use it to spy on you and also frequently do various very bad things.

NDNDNDND

2,546 posts

213 months

Wednesday 15th November 2023
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dunnoreally said:
looks quite nice.
No, it doesn't; it looks like a cheap, shonky, radio-controlled Nissan GT-R bought from Temu.

Water Fairy

6,609 posts

185 months

Wednesday 15th November 2023
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I'm finding it very difficult to hide my indifference

anonymous-user

84 months

Wednesday 15th November 2023
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Very odd, at least it's not an SUV.....does it come in estate form smile

chrisgtx

1,346 posts

240 months

Wednesday 15th November 2023
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I quite like the look of that.

dunnoreally

1,356 posts

138 months

Wednesday 15th November 2023
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NDNDNDND said:
No, it doesn't; it looks like a cheap, shonky, radio-controlled Nissan GT-R bought from Temu.
Well, aside from some quite tacky details (that dot matrix on the side of it is ridiculous), I kinda like it. Reminds me a bit of Lego Technic, in agood way. I still wouldn't for much the same reasons I hope I wouldn't have considered a new Mercedes in the mid-to-late 1930s, but YMMV on both counts.

Also worth noting that the next car I'm seriously considering is a late model Vauxhall Omega, so what I think about new £100k electric cars is hardly relevant anyway.

Cupramax

11,006 posts

282 months

Wednesday 15th November 2023
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For anyone that’s not seen it, the marginally less bonkers version.


Alfa Pete

473 posts

256 months

Wednesday 15th November 2023
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Like others I think I have become indifferent to these huge power figures.
The outlandish looks and huge power seem to be a tactic to cover up for the fact that these cars are like a one trick pony and not offering anything new or particularly innovative.

Rich Boy Spanner

1,879 posts

160 months

Wednesday 15th November 2023
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I like the look of that. If it drives OK it would be great, probably get tired of 2 sec runs to 62MPH but the on demand acceleration must be astonishing. All it needs is some high profile media product placement and they would sell (if they set up a dealer/repair/service network).