You May Pay Off Your Mortgage Early!
You May Pay Off Your Mortgage Early!
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BOR

Original Poster:

5,097 posts

279 months

Thursday 16th November 2023
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What do you all think of this?

I arrive home on my bike, soaked to the skin. I am feeling so sorry for myself, so depressed.

Waiting for me is a letter from the bank, saying congratulations, that as I have been a loyal customer, they are now allowing me to pay off the remainder of my 10 year / 1% fixed rate early, WITH NO PENALTY biglaugh

This literally made me laugh out loud.

So what should I do? There is a phone number, so I am thinking of asking them to split the profits of terminating early.

But what a cheek.


brickwall

5,332 posts

234 months

Thursday 16th November 2023
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Ask them what discount they’ll take to settle the loan!

TwigtheWonderkid

48,158 posts

174 months

Thursday 16th November 2023
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brickwall said:
Ask them what discount they’ll take to settle the loan!
Do this. You paying it off will allow them to lend it out at a much hight rate. So ask them how much they will knock off your settlement figure to pay it off.

Steve H

1,170 posts

248 months

Friday 17th November 2023
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I would find it hard to be depressed with a 10yr fixed at 1%

anonymous-user

78 months

Friday 17th November 2023
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Steve H said:
I would find it hard to be depressed with a 10yr fixed at 1%
Absolutely, I would be continually congratulating myself on what must be the best financial decision ever.

CarDoodle

71 posts

64 months

Friday 17th November 2023
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Do this. You paying it off will allow them to lend it out at a much hight rate. So ask them how much they will knock off your settlement figure to pay it off.
Does this kind of “discounted settlement” ever happen? I’m with a mainstream lender and not quite as good a deal as OP (congrats!) but would be interested in knowing if there was such a thing!

BOR

Original Poster:

5,097 posts

279 months

Friday 17th November 2023
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I don't think there is going to be a huge amount left in it for them now anyway, but I will still try to get an answer from them.

Simbu

1,882 posts

198 months

Friday 17th November 2023
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How charitable of them laugh

You can obviously make more from savings interest and TBH unless they make you an offer that's hard to refuse, having the cash in readily accessible form is much preferred to it being locked in equity, unless you particularly want the safety net of zero mortgage.

brickwall

5,332 posts

234 months

Friday 17th November 2023
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CarDoodle said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Do this. You paying it off will allow them to lend it out at a much hight rate. So ask them how much they will knock off your settlement figure to pay it off.
Does this kind of “discounted settlement” ever happen? I’m with a mainstream lender and not quite as good a deal as OP (congrats!) but would be interested in knowing if there was such a thing!
In essence, no. The risks associated with banks allowing retail customers to start treating their mortgage loan as a tradable security are just too great.

Nonetheless it still pains me when I think I paid an early repayment fee on a 0.95% fix to move house!

Caddyshack

14,207 posts

230 months

Friday 17th November 2023
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There was talk during the credit crunch of lenders gearing up to buy back mortgages with a £10k incentive but I never actually heard of any happening. I am a broker and had a big client bank of people with £1m+ mortgage very close to or even under base.

brickwall

5,332 posts

234 months

Friday 17th November 2023
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Caddyshack said:
There was talk during the credit crunch of lenders gearing up to buy back mortgages with a £10k incentive but I never actually heard of any happening. I am a broker and had a big client bank of people with £1m+ mortgage very close to or even under base.
I know someone who in 2007 had a c£1m mortgage at base+0.1%, for the life of the term. Bank offered him £10k, he calculated the fair value was well over £100k.

scot_aln

694 posts

223 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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Around 2008 we took out a discount tracker mortgage. When rates gradually fell if I recall there was no cap (I think there now specify a minimum). Our rate therefore ended up close to 0% and we got continuous letters to redeem early with removal of any fees. Unfortunately it wasn't portable and we lost it when we moved. If on that low rate unless they properly incentivise I'd stay with it.

PaoloMey

301 posts

91 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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Should inflation carry on, those loans get cheaper to pay back.
Quite positive for such a nasty thing.

Abdul Abulbul Amir

13,179 posts

236 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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CarDoodle said:
Does this kind of “discounted settlement” ever happen? I’m with a mainstream lender and not quite as good a deal as OP (congrats!) but would be interested in knowing if there was such a thing!
Yes, in the past it has been used to encourage high ltv customers to make discounted lump payments to bring their ltvs down.


Caddyshack

14,207 posts

230 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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scot_aln said:
Around 2008 we took out a discount tracker mortgage. When rates gradually fell if I recall there was no cap (I think there now specify a minimum). Our rate therefore ended up close to 0% and we got continuous letters to redeem early with removal of any fees. Unfortunately it wasn't portable and we lost it when we moved. If on that low rate unless they properly incentivise I'd stay with it.
Very unusual for a mortgage not to be portable

BoRED S2upid

20,996 posts

264 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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Caddyshack said:
There was talk during the credit crunch of lenders gearing up to buy back mortgages with a £10k incentive but I never actually heard of any happening. I am a broker and had a big client bank of people with £1m+ mortgage very close to or even under base.
They can have mine tomorrow for £10k smile

Caddyshack

14,207 posts

230 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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BoRED S2upid said:
Caddyshack said:
There was talk during the credit crunch of lenders gearing up to buy back mortgages with a £10k incentive but I never actually heard of any happening. I am a broker and had a big client bank of people with £1m+ mortgage very close to or even under base.
They can have mine tomorrow for £10k smile
Do you owe £8k?

The Gauge

6,580 posts

37 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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scot_aln said:
Around 2008 we took out a discount tracker mortgage. When rates gradually fell if I recall there was no cap (I think there now specify a minimum). Our rate therefore ended up close to 0%
Snap. In 2007 I moved to our current bigger house and took out a 0.23% above BoE base rate tracker mortgage for £147k. Initially payments were around £700-800/month but very soon started plummeting and settled at less than 0.5%. I even started overpaying just to 'do something' with the spare money I had, even though I might have got a better return on that money elsewhere, but it felt like almost every penny was going towards paying off the capital.

The current interest rate rises have shoved those payments northwards to about £600/month but thanks to the overpayments I only have about 3yrs left on it. That house move and mortgage find was probably the single best financial decision I have, and will ever make.

BOR

Original Poster:

5,097 posts

279 months

Monday 27th November 2023
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Just spoke to the bank, NO incentive offered to end mortgage early other than waiving the ERC.

The bank lady did at least acknowledge that it made no sense for me to do that.