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Saw it late last night on IMAX, thought it was brilliant. I have no idea how accurate it is but I didn't get bored once during its 2.5hr run thanks to some great battle scenes. It follows his career, military campaigns and his relationship with his wife. Look forward to seeing the extended version if that appears on Apple TV
The Gauge said:
It's given me an interest in learning more about him. Anyone able to recommend any good TV programmes, documentaries, Youtube videos etc to learn more please?
Or…read maybe??! Try Simon Scarrow’s series of Napoleon & Wellington. Gives a readable narrative of their lives/careers outside of a formal textbook or biography. Literally loads of heavier books you can then look at for more serious study after that.
Or watch some YouTube crap.
The Gauge said:
It's given me an interest in learning more about him. Anyone able to recommend any good TV programmes, documentaries, Youtube videos etc to learn more please?
I highly recommend Epic History TV on YT. https://www.youtube.com/@EpichistoryTvIt has some great videos chronicling Napoleons military campaigns (as well as other conflicts throughout history).
Tlandcruiser said:
I found it boring and completely undersold napoleons achievements and rise to power. It didn’t really expand on why napoleon was able to return to power after exile the first time etc.
I wouldn't quite say boring, but I would say underwhelmed and I agree it didn't shed a huge light on his many achievements and prodigal status.DeejRC said:
The Gauge said:
It's given me an interest in learning more about him. Anyone able to recommend any good TV programmes, documentaries, Youtube videos etc to learn more please?
Or…read maybe??! Try Simon Scarrow’s series of Napoleon & Wellington. Gives a readable narrative of their lives/careers outside of a formal textbook or biography. Literally loads of heavier books you can then look at for more serious study after that.
Or watch some YouTube crap.
The Gauge said:
I’ll stick with TV & YouTube, Dan Snow does some great videos, but thanks for the book info.
The rest is history podcast on spotify has 3 episodes on Napoleon, starting with his early life, that are good, if you like a certain type of sense of humour (very dodgy accents and comparisons of key protagonists to spotty teenagers or "top lads").Seriously, this is how history is "done" now?
The age contained 2 of the greatest Generals that have existed and 2 monumental figures in their own individual rights. Their impacts upon countries other than their own were greater than anybody since Charlemagne and that's outside of each others orbits. Their combined impact on the world as a whole surpasses Alexander, Julius, Augustus, Marcus and Charlemagne. Only WW2 has a wider scope than them.
Yet both boil down to absolutely intense individuals with extravagant gifts and monumental flaws. Napoleon as an individual entity was arguably/probably the best Statesman-General the world had produced since those above, I would argue rivalled only by the legend that was William Marshall.
He is endlessly fascinating, but can't be studied in isolation because he didn't exist in isolation. All of the above is the study of him in contemporary time and not even starting on his enduring impact upon continental politics and socio political philosophy.
Napoleon is one of those subjects that merits the full Test match, not the ODI or T20.
The age contained 2 of the greatest Generals that have existed and 2 monumental figures in their own individual rights. Their impacts upon countries other than their own were greater than anybody since Charlemagne and that's outside of each others orbits. Their combined impact on the world as a whole surpasses Alexander, Julius, Augustus, Marcus and Charlemagne. Only WW2 has a wider scope than them.
Yet both boil down to absolutely intense individuals with extravagant gifts and monumental flaws. Napoleon as an individual entity was arguably/probably the best Statesman-General the world had produced since those above, I would argue rivalled only by the legend that was William Marshall.
He is endlessly fascinating, but can't be studied in isolation because he didn't exist in isolation. All of the above is the study of him in contemporary time and not even starting on his enduring impact upon continental politics and socio political philosophy.
Napoleon is one of those subjects that merits the full Test match, not the ODI or T20.
DeejRC said:
Seriously, this is how history is "done" now?
The age contained 2 of the greatest Generals that have existed and 2 monumental figures in their own individual rights. Their impacts upon countries other than their own were greater than anybody since Charlemagne and that's outside of each others orbits. Their combined impact on the world as a whole surpasses Alexander, Julius, Augustus, Marcus and Charlemagne. Only WW2 has a wider scope than them.
Yet both boil down to absolutely intense individuals with extravagant gifts and monumental flaws. Napoleon as an individual entity was arguably/probably the best Statesman-General the world had produced since those above, I would argue rivalled only by the legend that was William Marshall.
He is endlessly fascinating, but can't be studied in isolation because he didn't exist in isolation. All of the above is the study of him in contemporary time and not even starting on his enduring impact upon continental politics and socio political philosophy.
Napoleon is one of those subjects that merits the full Test match, not the ODI or T20.
Not everyone is a History buff though and they only want the truncated version with plenty of action/drama/romance and CGI. The age contained 2 of the greatest Generals that have existed and 2 monumental figures in their own individual rights. Their impacts upon countries other than their own were greater than anybody since Charlemagne and that's outside of each others orbits. Their combined impact on the world as a whole surpasses Alexander, Julius, Augustus, Marcus and Charlemagne. Only WW2 has a wider scope than them.
Yet both boil down to absolutely intense individuals with extravagant gifts and monumental flaws. Napoleon as an individual entity was arguably/probably the best Statesman-General the world had produced since those above, I would argue rivalled only by the legend that was William Marshall.
He is endlessly fascinating, but can't be studied in isolation because he didn't exist in isolation. All of the above is the study of him in contemporary time and not even starting on his enduring impact upon continental politics and socio political philosophy.
Napoleon is one of those subjects that merits the full Test match, not the ODI or T20.
I enjoy History but a couple of friends who have seen it, enjoyed it, couldn't give a monkey's really about the man - I'd wager they represent more of the target audience for profit than you or I.
DeejRC said:
Seriously, this is how history is "done" now?
The age contained 2 of the greatest Generals that have existed and 2 monumental figures in their own individual rights. Their impacts upon countries other than their own were greater than anybody since Charlemagne and that's outside of each others orbits. Their combined impact on the world as a whole surpasses Alexander, Julius, Augustus, Marcus and Charlemagne. Only WW2 has a wider scope than them.
Yet both boil down to absolutely intense individuals with extravagant gifts and monumental flaws. Napoleon as an individual entity was arguably/probably the best Statesman-General the world had produced since those above, I would argue rivalled only by the legend that was William Marshall.
He is endlessly fascinating, but can't be studied in isolation because he didn't exist in isolation. All of the above is the study of him in contemporary time and not even starting on his enduring impact upon continental politics and socio political philosophy.
Napoleon is one of those subjects that merits the full Test match, not the ODI or T20.
But this was just a film about him, not a documentary and I doubt all of that could be condensed into a film. Though I’m hoping the extended version coming to Apple TV will reveal more. The age contained 2 of the greatest Generals that have existed and 2 monumental figures in their own individual rights. Their impacts upon countries other than their own were greater than anybody since Charlemagne and that's outside of each others orbits. Their combined impact on the world as a whole surpasses Alexander, Julius, Augustus, Marcus and Charlemagne. Only WW2 has a wider scope than them.
Yet both boil down to absolutely intense individuals with extravagant gifts and monumental flaws. Napoleon as an individual entity was arguably/probably the best Statesman-General the world had produced since those above, I would argue rivalled only by the legend that was William Marshall.
He is endlessly fascinating, but can't be studied in isolation because he didn't exist in isolation. All of the above is the study of him in contemporary time and not even starting on his enduring impact upon continental politics and socio political philosophy.
Napoleon is one of those subjects that merits the full Test match, not the ODI or T20.
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