Parking in lay-bys facing wrong way
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So the other driver basically came out of layby, cut across oncoming traffic and cut you up, except managed to clip you with her near side to your offside. IMO her fault.
I had a similar (ish) incident a few years back when someody in a ropey old 3 series cut me up going into a roundabout, his offside rear wing clipped my nearside front headlight. He was held 100% responsible. And as he did a runner and apparently had no insurance, eventually ended up with a stiff fine and 6 points.
I had a similar (ish) incident a few years back when someody in a ropey old 3 series cut me up going into a roundabout, his offside rear wing clipped my nearside front headlight. He was held 100% responsible. And as he did a runner and apparently had no insurance, eventually ended up with a stiff fine and 6 points.
dirky dirk said:
Had a minor bump yesterday nobody injured no airbags but both cars a mess
As I was coming down a road a woman pulled out of a lay-by on the other side of the road facing oncoming traffic
And her near side then hit my offside headlights.
I’m not after any Compo but I can see
She’ll try and riggle out it and I asked several people to be witnesses everyone disappeared when pressed, and nobody had any cctc
(Although I did manage to get some)
As this is a firms van and no real harm done it’s just one of those things. But I was bloody livid at the time
As she’s pulled out on me cut across the on coming lane and parked facing traffic although in a bay I’ve nothing to worrry
About have I??
If that was the contact point., you would have had plenty of time to stop, especially at 25mph.As I was coming down a road a woman pulled out of a lay-by on the other side of the road facing oncoming traffic
And her near side then hit my offside headlights.
I’m not after any Compo but I can see
She’ll try and riggle out it and I asked several people to be witnesses everyone disappeared when pressed, and nobody had any cctc
(Although I did manage to get some)
As this is a firms van and no real harm done it’s just one of those things. But I was bloody livid at the time
As she’s pulled out on me cut across the on coming lane and parked facing traffic although in a bay I’ve nothing to worrry
About have I??
Got to love this place sometimes. The OP is happily driving along minding his own business when someone drives into the side of him from the other side of the road and everyone agrees it his fault 
That she pull out of a lay-by is irrelevant. She could have pulled out of a side road into his path. It doesn't matter whether he was doing 25 mph or 50 mph. She pulled onto a road without checking it was clear. She is 100% at fault imho.
That she pull out of a lay-by is irrelevant. She could have pulled out of a side road into his path. It doesn't matter whether he was doing 25 mph or 50 mph. She pulled onto a road without checking it was clear. She is 100% at fault imho.
Fore Left said:
Got to love this place sometimes. The OP is happily driving along minding his own business when someone drives into the side of him from the other side of the road and everyone agrees it his fault
That she pull out of a lay-by is irrelevant. She could have pulled out of a side road into his path. It doesn't matter whether he was doing 25 mph or 50 mph. She pulled onto a road without checking it was clear. She is 100% at fault imho.
As has been pointed out, it will be a claim against him as it’s his fault for not stopping in time.That she pull out of a lay-by is irrelevant. She could have pulled out of a side road into his path. It doesn't matter whether he was doing 25 mph or 50 mph. She pulled onto a road without checking it was clear. She is 100% at fault imho.
dirky dirk said:
I know but sometimes you need
A sanity check don’t you? I’m thinking was I on my phone was a speeding had I had a drink etc.
I’ve got cctv footage now they just shows her pulling out I’m glad that she’s wasn’t injured but what worried me it was a dodgy area and loads of people came from nowhere offering safe motoring advice until I pointed out I have a tracker so thstll show I was probably doing 25 as there’s a pub and train station a bend and all sorts going on at the junction and I couldn’t go up The kerb as it’s bollards
Best way I could describe the angles is someone in lane three of a motorway
Deciding it was their junction and I’m in lane one and she hits me on my front corner with her passenger door.
Obviously a lot slower
Ok that’s clearer now, however this will still more than likely go 50/50 but good luck!A sanity check don’t you? I’m thinking was I on my phone was a speeding had I had a drink etc.
I’ve got cctv footage now they just shows her pulling out I’m glad that she’s wasn’t injured but what worried me it was a dodgy area and loads of people came from nowhere offering safe motoring advice until I pointed out I have a tracker so thstll show I was probably doing 25 as there’s a pub and train station a bend and all sorts going on at the junction and I couldn’t go up The kerb as it’s bollards
Best way I could describe the angles is someone in lane three of a motorway
Deciding it was their junction and I’m in lane one and she hits me on my front corner with her passenger door.
Obviously a lot slower
For the bystanders, who probably didn't actually see anything, if you are driving a van, they'll assume it's your fault. If you are relatively young and the other driver is in their 40s or 50s, they'll assume it's your fault. It's better to ignore them.
When the other party refused to give their details, you should have called the police and informed them of that and perhaps added that they were becoming aggressive with you and you were rather worried by their behaviour.
When the other party refused to give their details, you should have called the police and informed them of that and perhaps added that they were becoming aggressive with you and you were rather worried by their behaviour.
Peter3442 said:
When the other party refused to give their details, you should have called the police and informed them of that and perhaps added that they were becoming aggressive with you and you were rather worried by their behaviour.
Whilst it's worth a go, I would expect the police won't be able to attend given the shortages of coppers. You'll just get told to either drive off or find somewhere safe.Not a pop at the police, they were round in minutes when my neighbour had a burglar recently.
OP, I'm not sure you're really understanding what happened. Have you ever heard of defensive driving?
You are driving down a road, quite slowly at 25mph, when you see a car parked in a layby on the opposite side of the road. You then see this car start to move. (I assume you did see it start to move?). You are then watching this car like a hawk wondering what is going to happen - you obviously think it is going to stay in the layby until the road is clear. But as soon as that didn't happen and it started to pull out, where did you think it was going to go?
Yes, they were driving like a prat without any care, without any consideration of traffic laws or other vehicles and probably without looking.
BUT at 25mph and the other car needing time to get up some speed and cross the other lane, you had all the time in the world to stop (as already pointed out by 911).
Just because somebody else on the road is behaving like a prat doesn't mean you have the right to drive into them! They might have caused the accident but you certainly could have avoided it - but didn't.
Who's at fault? I'd say you were both as bad as each other.
You are driving down a road, quite slowly at 25mph, when you see a car parked in a layby on the opposite side of the road. You then see this car start to move. (I assume you did see it start to move?). You are then watching this car like a hawk wondering what is going to happen - you obviously think it is going to stay in the layby until the road is clear. But as soon as that didn't happen and it started to pull out, where did you think it was going to go?
Yes, they were driving like a prat without any care, without any consideration of traffic laws or other vehicles and probably without looking.
BUT at 25mph and the other car needing time to get up some speed and cross the other lane, you had all the time in the world to stop (as already pointed out by 911).
Just because somebody else on the road is behaving like a prat doesn't mean you have the right to drive into them! They might have caused the accident but you certainly could have avoided it - but didn't.
Who's at fault? I'd say you were both as bad as each other.
This would be far easier to understand if:
a)it was written in English, and
b)the OP didn't keep hitting the 'Return' key in the middle of a sentence thereby making false paragraphs.
I'm still bamboozled by the circumstances, despite reading all of the bits umpteen times. Maybe I'm just thick or pissed...
a)it was written in English, and
b)the OP didn't keep hitting the 'Return' key in the middle of a sentence thereby making false paragraphs.
I'm still bamboozled by the circumstances, despite reading all of the bits umpteen times. Maybe I'm just thick or pissed...
littleredrooster said:
I'm still bamboozled by the circumstances, despite reading all of the bits umpteen times. Maybe I'm just thick or pissed...
Same, OP needs to draw a very clear diagram.Generally however if you are hit head-on/glancing while you are in your lane *and* there was no opportunity to take evasive action then it is their fault.
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