No wonder my brakes were juddering.

No wonder my brakes were juddering.

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PositronicRay

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27,997 posts

197 months

Tuesday 28th November 2023
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Recent purchase, I knew they were poor but didn't expect this.


LunarOne

6,287 posts

151 months

Tuesday 28th November 2023
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Jeez that's bad! How long did you have the car before you discovered the state of them?

PositronicRay

Original Poster:

27,997 posts

197 months

Tuesday 28th November 2023
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LunarOne said:
Jeez that's bad! How long did you have the car before you discovered the state of them?
I drove it home gently!

stevieturbo

17,745 posts

261 months

Tuesday 28th November 2023
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One careful owner ? full dealer service history ? New fresh MOT ?

How did the outside look ?

PositronicRay

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27,997 posts

197 months

Tuesday 28th November 2023
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stevieturbo said:
One careful owner ? full dealer service history ? New fresh MOT ?

How did the outside look ?
2 owner full MB history, MOT 3 months earlier had discs as an advisory.

Outside didn't look nearly as bad.



Edited by PositronicRay on Tuesday 28th November 16:58

stevieturbo

17,745 posts

261 months

Tuesday 28th November 2023
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Many failings there really

Problem is, dealers never service anything properly. They just tick their little boxes and no more and the customer often knows no better

LunarOne

6,287 posts

151 months

Tuesday 28th November 2023
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PositronicRay said:
stevieturbo said:
One careful owner ? full dealer service history ? New fresh MOT ?

How did the outside look ?
2 owner full MB history, MOT 3 months earlier had discs as an advisory.

Outside didn't look nearly as bad.

Ah MB. That well-known purveyor of automotive goodness...


Tony1963

5,650 posts

176 months

Tuesday 28th November 2023
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among the many personal experiences:

Picked up a new MB, and booked it in a couple of weeks later to have the headlight beams checked, appeared to be aiming too low. They said they checked them, and they were well within limits. I tried another dealership… same response.

And guess what was picked up as a fail with a charge for labour at the first MoT? Yep. Made them check the history, charge removed.

I have zero guilt attached to taking part in the dieselgate action against them. Poor quality cars, poor dealerships, arrogance, and even some of the independent specialists have adopted similar ways of operating.

Never again.

E-bmw

10,943 posts

166 months

Wednesday 29th November 2023
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Unfortunately, that is typical of many dealers.

"Within limits" isn't the same as "correct" many are just lazy at doing everything apart from taking money.

Smint

2,300 posts

49 months

Sunday 3rd December 2023
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If thats the stae of the fronts, assuming this Merc still has the drum inside disc park brake i'd be inclined to have the rears off and inspect the park brake drum and shoes, i've seen them with such a high rust build up it almost sliced the park brake shoes in two, another where it was only rust holding the read pad friction material in situ, when removed they literally fell apart.

Very difficult on some cars to see rear disc faces if they have good dust shields, need mirror on stick and strong light, wide wheels make it just as difficult from underneath.

Sheepshanks

36,844 posts

133 months

Sunday 3rd December 2023
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Tony1963 said:
…..and even some of the independent specialists have adopted similar ways of operating.

Never again.
Yes, wasn’t sorry to see mine go, indie was getting increasingly annoying - all he wanted to do was fit MB branded parts. I offered to pay to service the brakes and he still wouldn’t do it. He got even worse when he started doing his own MOTs.

Milkyway

10,299 posts

67 months

Sunday 3rd December 2023
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‘Brake pads low’ sensor. scratchchin

stevieturbo

17,745 posts

261 months

Sunday 3rd December 2023
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Sheepshanks said:
all he wanted to do was fit MB branded parts. I offered to pay to service the brakes and he still wouldn’t do it. He got even worse when he started doing his own MOTs.
Sometimes wanting to fit "known" parts is not unreasonable.

Likely been burnt many times in the past with aftermarket parts, many times. I'd doubt he wants to fit OEM parts because it is more profitable.

PositronicRay

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27,997 posts

197 months

Sunday 3rd December 2023
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stevieturbo said:
Sheepshanks said:
all he wanted to do was fit MB branded parts. I offered to pay to service the brakes and he still wouldn’t do it. He got even worse when he started doing his own MOTs.
Sometimes wanting to fit "known" parts is not unreasonable.

Likely been burnt many times in the past with aftermarket parts, many times. I'd doubt he wants to fit OEM parts because it is more profitable.
I've been using the same indi for years, I just let him fit what he feels is appropriate.

Recent brake job was aftermarket. Rear springs he quoted for MB and aftermarket but he obviously wasn't keen on aftermarket, so paid the (small) premium for the genuine article.

Sheepshanks

36,844 posts

133 months

Sunday 3rd December 2023
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stevieturbo said:
Sheepshanks said:
all he wanted to do was fit MB branded parts. I offered to pay to service the brakes and he still wouldn’t do it. He got even worse when he started doing his own MOTs.
Sometimes wanting to fit "known" parts is not unreasonable.

Likely been burnt many times in the past with aftermarket parts, many times. I'd doubt he wants to fit OEM parts because it is more profitable.
I think it's just easier - even pads and discs he uses MB parts and was more expensive than the dealer, until MB dropped their fixed pricing rates for that kind of work.

He had a bit of an epi when he couldn't get an exhaust section for my car from MB - alternative was half the price.