Shooting in Hackney - Woman Killed
Shooting in Hackney - Woman Killed
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Alickadoo

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3,257 posts

45 months

Wednesday 6th December 2023
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A shooting in Hackney. A woman was killed and a man and a 16 year old were injured.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67632...

okgo

41,389 posts

220 months

Wednesday 6th December 2023
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Happens most days tbh. Suppose it being a woman is a bit of a turn up.

Puzzling how some shootings make the news and the majority don’t.

sugerbear

6,251 posts

180 months

Wednesday 6th December 2023
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Upper Clapton to Lower Clapton was well known for murders in 2000's. I can remember discussing it with a work coleauge back then when we heard that someone was thinking of moving there. Named murder mile. Nothing new.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain...

scenario8

7,548 posts

201 months

Wednesday 6th December 2023
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okgo said:
Happens most days tbh. Suppose it being a woman is a bit of a turn up.

Puzzling how some shootings make the news and the majority don’t.
Indeed.

I appreciate it doesn’t have the “glamour” of a shooting but there was a stabbing at Sutton train station (an outer South London borough that rarely makes the news as it’s just a dull commuter suburb) last night resulting in the lad dying. The train station is closed even now which must have buggered things up for thousands of commuters, the main road remains closed and dozens of businesses couldn’t open their doors this morning but while that Hackney story remains prominently near the top on the front page of the BBC news website (for example) you have to really dig down into the bowels of local news to find mention of the Sutton murder.

Perhaps sending journalists out that far is a bit too much trouble? I dunno. Come to think of it the Croydon girl stabbing (neighbouring borough with far greater knife/gang problems) gained enormous traction.

croyde

25,417 posts

252 months

Wednesday 6th December 2023
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Sadly if it's a lad it only deserves a brief mention these days.

It's far rarer for the victim to be a woman, especially from a shooting frown

Liverpool has upped the trend lately, well done!

119

16,623 posts

58 months

Friday 8th December 2023
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16 year old boy arrested.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67659...

According to those that live there, everyone is wrong about the hole that London is becoming.

Randy Winkman

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211 months

Friday 8th December 2023
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119

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tangerine_sedge

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240 months

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Earthdweller

17,407 posts

148 months

Friday 8th December 2023
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You really need to dig into the figures rather than take a headline as gospel

In many areas most homicides are domestic related rather than gang related

Certain areas of the inner city have the opposite ratio to other high homicide areas

There’s a big difference in “safety” between women being murdered in their own homes and random/targeted gang murders in the street

Also the advances in emergency medical treatment at scenes as well as in A&E have meant that many who 20 years ago would have died in gang violence now survive

Certain areas of London have very serious gang issues the areas of north Hackney and South Tottenham being right up there

It is better and safer today than it was a few years ago mainly due to some excellent Police work interdicting the gangs

oyster

13,417 posts

270 months

Friday 8th December 2023
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119

16,623 posts

58 months

Friday 8th December 2023
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Earthdweller said:
You really need to dig into the figures rather than take a headline as gospel

In many areas most homicides are domestic related rather than gang related

Certain areas of the inner city have the opposite ratio to other high homicide areas

There’s a big difference in “safety” between women being murdered in their own homes and random/targeted gang murders in the street

Also the advances in emergency medical treatment at scenes as well as in A&E have meant that many who 20 years ago would have died in gang violence now survive

Certain areas of London have very serious gang issues the areas of north Hackney and South Tottenham being right up there

It is better and safer today than it was a few years ago mainly due to some excellent Police work interdicting the gangs
Some fair and valid points.

Thanks

Vanden Saab

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96 months

Friday 8th December 2023
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Biggy Stardust

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66 months

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