RE: SEAT Leon Cupra R ST | Spotted
RE: SEAT Leon Cupra R ST | Spotted
Tuesday 12th December 2023

SEAT Leon Cupra R ST | Spotted

The rare, all-wheel-drive, ABT-tuned fast estate that isn't an Audi...


It’s sort of been forgotten now, what with the latest one not exactly setting the world alight, but the last Leon Cupra was a really good hot hatch. Put simply, it looked great, had loads of power and represented decent value. But even more than that, with the Mk7 Golf as its base the Leon was also a much keener handler than it had ever been previously. Prone to some axle tramp, yes, and not exactly Civic Type R capable, but a fun car to drive nonetheless. 

And SEAT offered up what hot hatch buyers were after. Or at least the kind of stuff that lends the car some credibility. There were performance packs that brought bigger brakes and stickier tyres (and even deleted some equipment, at their most extreme), a cheap Q car in the 265hp model, a standard manual, three doors, a Golf R hatch and estate alternative on the cheap… For every kind of hot hatch buyer, there was a Leon Cupra to suit. Now, probably because people didn’t buy enough of the cars we think they do, there are Cupra-badged Leons with 150hp, a boring plug-in hybrid and a 300hp 2.0-litre that costs from £40k. 

The peak for the previous car was the Cupra R, offered as both a hatch and estate in quite different specifications: the hatch was front-wheel drive and manual, the wagon DSG and AWD. While power was there or thereabouts against standard, a couple of chassis changes (including Brembo brake calipers, extra negative camber and more aggressive tyres) brought some welcome bite to the driving experience. Both neatly encapsulated how broad the appeal of the Cupra was, the hatch as much fun as anything else front-driven and the wagon offering up a comprehensively talented compact fast estate package (for a price). 

This is one of the 150 sold to UK buyers, and benefits from the addition of an ABT tuning package. This was offered to new customers for £500, boosting power and torque to 350hp and 325lb ft, which meant it could scoot to 62mph in just 4.7 seconds. No doubt it could be made even faster still, if desired, thanks to the eminent tuneability of the EA888 engine. The Cupra could be a junior RS6 before you know it. 

Speaking of which, the previous (and only) owner of this R is selling to buy something larger for a growing family - surely the Audi is the logical step from here. The Leon has covered 23,000 miles since 2019, was serviced in September and benefits from four recent new tyres as well (though now a Continental rather than the super-focused Michelin). The whole thing looks in fine fettle - ‘fastidiously maintained’, says the ad - inevitably a simpler design inside and out than what’s followed but arguably none the worse for it. Probably smarter than the equivalent Golf R, too. 

This one is for sale at £30k; when new the Cupra R carried a £4k premium over a standard 4Drive estate, which has actually now extended over time - the lowest mileage, latest standard models are £23k. The earliest all-wheel drive, DSG wagons are from £16k. That being said, none of these will drive as nicely as the R, look as smart or boast the rarity appeal (that should help when selling next time around, too). As was the case just a few years ago, it looks like a pretty persuasive package. Let’s hope for something similar from Cupra in the not-too-distant future.


SPECIFICATION | SEAT LEON CUPRA R ST ABT

Engine: 1,984cc, four-cyl turbo
Transmission: 7-speed dual-clutch automatic, all-wheel drive
Power (hp): 350@5,500-6,400rpm
Torque (lb ft): 325@2,000-5,200rpm
0-62mph: 4.7 seconds
Top speed: 155mph (limited)
MPG: 39.2 (NEDC)
CO2: 164g/km
Year registered: 2019
Recorded mileage: 23,000
Price new: £38,475
Yours for: £29,995

See the original advert here

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Moss Feen

Original Poster:

270 posts

193 months

Tuesday 12th December 2023
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Bought mine (ABT 400) in June 2020 and I have covered about 65000kms. I buy it for about 30k euros from a dealer here inTorino. Fantastic cars totally understated Got rid of most of the Orange copper bits on the outside. Plain Silver now. The Ride is quite hard.& does about 28ishmpg. I will keep it for a long while yet Love it

martin12345

1,007 posts

118 months

Tuesday 12th December 2023
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Had a 2019 5dr hatch Leon Cupra 300 until I replaced it with a GR Yaris
As the article says, it was a really good alrounder - worked really well as a "car" whilst being fast)er than most expect and fun if driven properly
Had terrible axle tramp when i first got it on mismatched front tyres (2 different types of P Zero's) which most mostly eradicated by a matching set of PS4S

In some ways regret getting rid of it and in most ways it was a better car than the the Yaris (all of the sensible ways) although in the particular ways the Yaris is better, it is spectacular !!

A Leon Cupra estate of this generation is on my "may be" list for the next car after the Yaris (whenever that might be)

I have driven the latest Cupra (in PHEV form) and neither the exterior looks, nor the functionality of the Infotainment are as good as this generation for me, so I will be sticking to this generation if I do go back to a Cupra


Edited by martin12345 on Tuesday 12th December 08:03

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 12th December 2023
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Nice spec and performance, but the plastic copper add on bits inside and outside make it look chintzy, ruins what would be a nice car.

Wren-went

1,062 posts

67 months

Tuesday 12th December 2023
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I've a 3 door 18 plate 300 Cupra it's a fantastic car and at 54 it's got more than enough power for a middle aged me.

So far I've only had my car a 5 or 6 months but I'm still smitten and haven't felt like this since owning a 16V Astra GTE in my early 20s .

Hub

7,130 posts

227 months

Tuesday 12th December 2023
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I like these but they are pricey compared to the standard 300 4drive on the used market - basically around an 8k premium it seems, which isn't worth it when you could get the basic car remapped for a lot less.

Not that I've ever modified any of my cars in that way. How does the ABT map affect insurance? Do insurers recognise it as a manufacturer power upgrade offering, or modification?


SeekerOfTruthAndPies

266 posts

66 months

Tuesday 12th December 2023
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Really like these, especially the ABT upgraded model. Was one of several possibles I considered a few months ago when changing my car, unfortunately time constraints and relative rarity (especially the ABT ones) conspired against me. A great all-rounder I would imagine.

Terminator X

20,576 posts

233 months

Tuesday 12th December 2023
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Nice! Never even heard of the estate.

TX.

Cryssys

912 posts

67 months

Tuesday 12th December 2023
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You could get a C43 for very similar money.

SlowV6

720 posts

168 months

Tuesday 12th December 2023
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A 2019 300 4Drive Lux with similar miles can be had for around £20-£21k at the moment. I am watching, hoping prices will soften a little. I am struggling to see why this commands an extra £9k. Personally I don't like all the copper colour adornments this one has and would prefer a standard Lux, with the optional bucket seats!

Bladedancer

1,458 posts

225 months

Tuesday 12th December 2023
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Cryssys said:
You could get a C43 for very similar money.
And what a mistake that would be smile

coupe20VT

20 posts

226 months

Tuesday 12th December 2023
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Hub said:
I like these but they are pricey compared to the standard 300 4drive on the used market - basically around an 8k premium it seems, which isn't worth it when you could get the basic car remapped for a lot less.

Not that I've ever modified any of my cars in that way. How does the ABT map affect insurance? Do insurers recognise it as a manufacturer power upgrade offering, or modification?
Insurers recognise the ABT upgrade as a factory spec.

I've owned my Cupra R ST for nearly 3 yrs, I bought it with 3,000 miles on the clock for £32K and its probably worth similar now with 30,000 miles on the clock. So they hold their value well being a limited edition model.

I love mine and plan to keep it a long time. I don't think they are pricey compared to the standard 300 4drive because you get upgraded brembo brakes as used on the RS3 and TTRS, a host of lovely carbon fibre parts including front splitter, side skirts and rear spoiler (supposedly made in the koenigsegg factory?), the upgraded suspension and the copper accents in the interior really lift it compared to the standard model imo. The car really handles well down a country lane and is plenty fast enough. I've also taken mine around Croft and Olton park and thought it was excellent on track considering it is an estate car. I love the rarity too.

If you are looking to get one I'd definitely go for one with the pan roof (although they do creak a bit). The brakes are expensive to replace (OEM front discs ~£750, pads £320, plus fitting). Given they were the top spec car at the time they didn't come with adaptive cruise control in the UK which my previous Cupra 300 had which I find annoying. Other than that I think they are fantastic cars.


C5_Steve

8,870 posts

132 months

Tuesday 12th December 2023
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One of these is at my gym all the time, don't think it's the ABT tuned one but looks exactly the same as this one. It's a really good looking car in person and the copper accents IMO work really well. Makes it stand out a little whilst still being subtle.

Had no idea there were ABT tuned ones.

J4CKO

46,824 posts

229 months

Tuesday 12th December 2023
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coupe20VT said:
Hub said:
I like these but they are pricey compared to the standard 300 4drive on the used market - basically around an 8k premium it seems, which isn't worth it when you could get the basic car remapped for a lot less.

Not that I've ever modified any of my cars in that way. How does the ABT map affect insurance? Do insurers recognise it as a manufacturer power upgrade offering, or modification?
Ins
I've owned my Cupra R ST for nearly 3 yrs, I bought it with 3,000 miles on the clock for £32K and its probably worth similar now with 30,000 miles on the clock. So they hold their value well being a limited edition model.
32 grand, no chance these days, there are some for 28 on AT, dearest is 31, and thats what dealers are asking, privately probably 26 if you get any interest as folk dont tend to buy privately at this level, dealers will bid early twenties.

coupe20VT

20 posts

226 months

Tuesday 12th December 2023
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J4CKO said:
32 grand, no chance these days, there are some for 28 on AT, dearest is 31, and thats what dealers are asking, privately probably 26 if you get any interest as folk dont tend to buy privately at this level, dealers will bid early twenties.
They are currently advertised for between £28K and £31K, so not dropped much in 3yrs. That was the point I was trying to make.

Pablo16v

2,912 posts

226 months

Tuesday 12th December 2023
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I had a standard 2020 Leon Cupra ST for 3 years and would happily have another one as it was just a great all-rounder. Wouldn't pay the extra for an R model though, as the standard one is more than quick enough and I prefer the understated looks too.

1974foggy

750 posts

173 months

Tuesday 12th December 2023
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Looks nice , normally they are so understated they do nothing for me.
Maybe a plus if you want a "Blender".

CG2020UK

2,957 posts

69 months

Tuesday 12th December 2023
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Big fan of these!

Love the cooper accents on the car and cooper wheels especially when coupled with the blue paint.

Peter_booker2003

37 posts

121 months

Tuesday 12th December 2023
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I have just bought this exact car as in the photos above and have to say whilst I was initially dubious when I started looking at these a few months back I am more than sold on why they command the premium that they do. The carbon diffuser, splitter and spoiler along with the much nicer wheels, more power and much improved suspension. Not to mention how rare they are.

It’s a completely different car to a standard ST with plenty of tweaks that offer a much better driving all rounder. I drove it home yesterday and sat on the motorway at 70mph still got over 40mpg.

I have been driving a 7.5 TCR for 18 months before this and have to say that it drives very similar overall and round a country lane feels very confidence inspiring like a TCR.

Overall I am very happy with the purchase so far and for someone who ferry’s bikes and dogs around, but wanted something fairly special without spending mega money this fits the bill incredibly well.

There will be a proper post coming in the coming days on the Readers Rides.


C5_Steve

8,870 posts

132 months

Tuesday 12th December 2023
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Peter_booker2003 said:
I have just bought this exact car as in the photos above and have to say whilst I was initially dubious when I started looking at these a few months back I am more than sold on why they command the premium that they do. The carbon diffuser, splitter and spoiler along with the much nicer wheels, more power and much improved suspension. Not to mention how rare they are.

It’s a completely different car to a standard ST with plenty of tweaks that offer a much better driving all rounder. I drove it home yesterday and sat on the motorway at 70mph still got over 40mpg.

I have been driving a 7.5 TCR for 18 months before this and have to say that it drives very similar overall and round a country lane feels very confidence inspiring like a TCR.

Overall I am very happy with the purchase so far and for someone who ferry’s bikes and dogs around, but wanted something fairly special without spending mega money this fits the bill incredibly well.

There will be a proper post coming in the coming days on the Readers Rides.
Looking forward to that, something a little different!

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 12th December 2023
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The car - Yes please

The price - fk off