powerfull deisel engine ???

[deathbyfish]

ok, petrols going up and i cant really see it going down again. its costing a fair bit to fill my ginnetta now

and at the same time i'm looking at fitting a more powerfull engine but that will cost more in petrol.

so what i'm wondering is can i find a big powerfull deisel engine and run it on something cheap like cooking oil ect?

are there any decent deisel engines out there?

and theres not really much point in me bothering unless i can find something more powerfull than what i've got, which is a 2 liter pinto slightly tuned about 125hp ? so it needs to be better than that, (and hopefully easy /simple to fit!)

[Black5]

How about a VAG 1.9 TDi.

Up to 130bhp standard.
Tunable to over 150bhp.

Available in Audi A3, A4, A6, VW Polo, Golf, Bora, Passat, Sharon, Tourvan, Seat Ibiza, Cordoba, Leon, Skoda Octavia and more . . .

Add this to the fact the torque will be nearly double that of the petrol car.

[busa_rush]

There's a Westfield with a 260 bhp VAG 1.9 TDi engine in it. Talk to Superchips as they do a lot with diesel tuning and VAG.

[Mutant Rat]

Black5 said:

How about a VAG 1.9 TDi. Up to 130bhp standard. Tunable to over 150bhp. Available in Audi A3, A4, A6, VW Polo, Golf, Bora, Passat, Sharon, Tourvan, Seat Ibiza, Cordoba, Leon, Skoda Octavia and more . . . Add this to the fact the torque will be nearly double that of the petrol car.

Up to 158 bhp standard, in fact (160PS and 330NM ~ 243 lb.ft torque). Just find yourself a crashed Seat Ibiza Cupra TDi.

Bought my G/F a 130bhp Ibiza FR a short while ago (she was insisting on a 5 door and the Cupra is only available with 3). So impressed that I'm considering a Cupra myself as my next company car, despite the fact it's way under my allowable budget. Would be the first oil-burner I've 'owned'

Would be very interesting to see what it could do in a lightweight mid-engined car like the Elise, GTM or Sylva MoJo. If you can put up with the bloody awful diesel death-rattle, I suspect that it would be an effortlessly quick little thing!

>> Edited by Mutant Rat on Tuesday 6th September 21:14

[Avocet]

Probably not worth running one of these new "common rail" type diesels on cooking oil. They are very sensitive to fuel quality. You'll probably trash it - especially if it has been "chipped". (no pun intended!) Most manufacturers will only honour the warranty when the engine is run on a maximum of 5% "biodiesel" mixed with 95% mineral diesel. The last diesel I know of that can run 100% biodiesel is the VW "LT". Peugeot will let you (I think) go up to about 30% biodiesel on their HDI diesels.

[the dj 27]

They don't sound too bad with a decent exhaust and induction system on them. There's a TDi Golf racing in the VW Cup that actually sounds pretty nice.

[NAPiston]

21 mpg good enough?

oh, and 700hp and 1300 lb.-ft....

www.galebanks.com/sidewinder.cfm

[ERP]

One of the US hotrod sites was discussing this and claiming 1000+lb/ft from one of the modern truck deisel engines, running 12 second quarter miles (That's about what a stock Viper runs) with relatively minor mods.

But they don't exactly fit into the locost/lightweight ethos.


>> Edited by ERP on Wednesday 7th September 02:36

[annodomini2]

Toyota D4d, they're all aluminium would benefit the low weight vehicle.

[deathbyfish]

i like the sidewinder thing!!!

although i found this on ebay- http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-1-9-TDi-Engine-and-box-complete-2003_W0QQitemZ4573338131QQcategoryZ9889QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

not bad for £12 !

but how hard are modern engines to fit and get running, athough fitting something like a big american deisel shouldnt be to hard, should it?

my g31 has a pretty strong chassis by the looks of it 2 inch square tube for the most part!

[ERP]

The cummins deisel weighs about 1000lbs, the hard part would be finding a chassis strong enough and big enough to fit it.

[jitsukadave]

Not like fitting new, but I changed the engine on my 306 Turbo Diesel without any worries, same plumbing (pretty much) as a petrol. Just nned the usual bits to fit an engine.

[RazMan]

It's a bit of a lump but the BMW 2.5 straight six is a wonderful engine - 170bhp in chipped form and buckets of torque.

[pearl nicholas]

a diesel in a kit car? surely this is a joke thread!

[Justin S]

Westfield built a diesel powered car many years back.It was called the wiesel. was powered by a sierra diesel engine and box.It did IIRC 70mpg on a steady run and had the boost tweaked so that it did 6 sec 0-60 times,

[tiger_drew]

I can say that the 135bhp 2l ford diesel isnt too shabby either just bought a C-max(family) as the puegeot finally died and its fairly rapid

[Truckosaurus]

The Volvo D5 engine uses the same alloy block as the petrol T5. There was a T5 powered semi-official (in the turmoltuous earlier '90s) Ginetta G33 badged as a G34.

[editted to add]

It seems that the engine was a 4-cyl one. Link

>> Edited by Truckosaurus on Friday 23 September 13:23