Higher income tax rates for Scotland

[Puzzles]

Scottish Finance Secretary Shona Robison announces a new 45% tax rate, as part of her budget which will apply to earnings between £75,000 and £125,140, and the top rate of tax for the highest earners is increasing from 47% to 48%

Ouch.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-scotland-677520...

[Edible Roadkill]

That’s too much piss taking for me.

Researching on changing my primary address out of Scotland otherwise will SS down to the 75k, car, bicycle, pension.

[Arranguez]

It does now cost a significant sum to live here. It did before, but it just keeps getting worse. I wonder what Labour will do when they get in.

[FamousPheasant]

The tax trap of 52% over 43k is real kicker for modest earners.

The 69% trap for 100k to 120k is just insane.

Then when you consider that in Scotland there is no additional childcare provision for working couples like announced south of the border. And add a worse education system than England you really don't get value for money. Not somewhere I would recommend to bring up children at the moment.

[theboss]

Arranguez said:

I wonder what Labour will do when they get in.

Probably impose the Scottish rates and thresholds on the rest of us.

[okgo]

FamousPheasant said:

The tax trap of 52% over 43k is real kicker for modest earners.

The 69% trap for 100k to 120k is just insane.

Then when you consider that in Scotland there is no additional childcare provision for working couples like announced south of the border. And add a worse education system than England you really don't get value for money. Not somewhere I would recommend to bring up children at the moment.

Free uni tho innit?

[FamousPheasant]

True, but 18 years is along time to wait, let alone in politics to get that dividend. That's even if your kids even went down that route anyway.

[number2]

okgo said:

FamousPheasant said:

The tax trap of 52% over 43k is real kicker for modest earners.

The 69% trap for 100k to 120k is just insane.

Then when you consider that in Scotland there is no additional childcare provision for working couples like announced south of the border. And add a worse education system than England you really don't get value for money. Not somewhere I would recommend to bring up children at the moment.

Free uni tho innit?

And free prescriptions.

Someone's got to pay for it. English taxpayer isn't it?

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[okgo]

number2 said:

And free prescriptions.

Someone's got to pay for it. English taxpayer isn't it?

.

Quite. They’re lucky it isn’t 20% higher.

[BoRED S2upid]

Arranguez said:

It does now cost a significant sum to live here. It did before, but it just keeps getting worse. I wonder what Labour will do when they get in.

Let’s hope they do get in. You need rid of the SNP pronto. Just don’t rely on starmer for handouts

[Bighoose]

FamousPheasant said:

The tax trap of 52% over 43k is real kicker for modest earners.

The 69% trap for 100k to 120k is just insane.

Then when you consider that in Scotland there is no additional childcare provision for working couples like announced south of the border. And add a worse education system than England you really don't get value for money. Not somewhere I would recommend to bring up children at the moment.

As someone bringing up a young family here, I sadly agree. Universal tution fees are still a carrot but I fear by the time my 2 are of university age that will be gone.

Personally I'm really glad the Scottish Government don't have more powers to borrow, it would be a disaster.

[BoRED S2upid]

Bighoose said:

As someone bringing up a young family here, I sadly agree. Universal tution fees are still a carrot but I fear by the time my 2 are of university age that will be gone.

Personally I'm really glad the Scottish Government don't have more powers to borrow, it would be a disaster.

Free Uni if you stay in Scottish Universities? Or if you go to a Uni of your choice?

[Akannajinja]

Of course, the irony is funded university places for Scottish students are limited. If you happen to be a child coming from a (relatively) high income household in an affluent postcode and privately educated, you’re actively discriminated against by the admissions system. Unlikely the highest rate tax payer kids will get a “free” place in Scotland. Wasted application and better off applying down South or abroad now. I can’t see any point coming here as a higher earner or staying.
Taxation wise myself and wife pay about £10k extra a year for privilege of living in Scotland now. Obviously nobody has any sympathy but I work an 80hour plus week, 50weeks a year. Pisses me off a bit, will cut back now I think.

Edited by Akannajinja on Tuesday 19th December 21:04

[CrgT16]

It’s just ridiculous… it will lead to brain drain or professionals moving south or abroad. Maybe they don’t want skilled people in Scotland… can’t see the end game but a blast move from them. If I was living there I would move out… not worth it.

[cheesejunkie]

Akannajinja said:

Of course, the irony is funded university places for Scottish students are limited. If you happen to be a child coming from a (relatively) high income household in an affluent postcode and privately educated, you’re actively discriminated against by the admissions system. Unlikely the highest rate tax payer kids will get a “free” place in Scotland. Wasted application and better off applying down South or abroad now. I can’t see any point coming here as a higher earner or staying.
Taxation wise myself and wife pay about £10k extra a year for privilege of living in Scotland now. Obviously nobody has any sympathy but I work an 80hour plus week, 50weeks a year. Pisses me off a bit, will cut back now I think.

Edited by Akannajinja on Tuesday 19th December 21:04

High income households in affluent postcodes are discriminated against? On what planet, because it isn't the one I live on.

The irony is that funded places are not automatically available to the privately educated and their parents think that's a problem.

I have serious doubts about the Scottish government's ability to balance the books but not as many as I do about people who think they're patricians.

[Akannajinja]

Weird response. Patricians? Bizarre. There’s a social deprivation weighting and postcode deprivation weighting which I actively support and am involved with in helping talented kids from disadvantaged backgrounds into University. My point was, the funded places are limited, it’s smoke and mirrors to say free university education is funded for Scottish students, it’s a lie.

[Terminator X]

Puzzles said:

Scottish Finance Secretary Shona Robison announces a new 45% tax rate, as part of her budget which will apply to earnings between £75,000 and £125,140, and the top rate of tax for the highest earners is increasing from 47% to 48%

Ouch.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-scotland-677520...

Mass exodus to England?

TX.

[thepritch]

number2 said:

And free prescriptions.

Someone's got to pay for it. English taxpayer isn't it?

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You do know that england has a pre pay prescription card - £120 a year so after that your prescriptions are also free. It seems the English taxpayer is subsidiaing English prescriptions.

[cheesejunkie]

Akannajinja said:

Weird response. Patricians? Bizarre. There’s a social deprivation weighting and postcode deprivation weighting which I actively support and am involved with in helping talented kids from disadvantaged backgrounds into University. My point was, the funded places are limited, it’s smoke and mirrors to say free university education is funded for Scottish students, it’s a lie.

What's bizarre about it? I've read many threads on this forum full of people who think they're funding the rest of the country when they aren't. If I incorrectly labelled you as somebody who thinks they're a patrician I'll happily apologise.

You complained about privately educated people being discriminated against. Meanwhile in the real world that doesn't happen but some like to moan about their inability to buy privilege.

[BoRED S2upid]

thepritch said:

You do know that england has a pre pay prescription card - £120 a year so after that your prescriptions are also free. It seems the English taxpayer is subsidiaing English prescriptions.

£120 per person is left me see now £120x 55 million… carry the two… absolute st loads. Whereas Scotland and Wales contribution is erm… nothing. Hmmm… how’s that working out.