Chances of a prison sentence?
Chances of a prison sentence?
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anonymous-user

Original Poster:

76 months

Saturday 23rd December 2023
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Senior police officer allegedly been a naughty man.

https://www.itv.com/news/tyne-tees/2023-12-21/seni...

vonhosen

40,597 posts

239 months

Saturday 23rd December 2023
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You'd have to see if & what they are charged with first.

agtlaw

7,273 posts

228 months

Saturday 23rd December 2023
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pocketspring said:
Senior police officer allegedly been a naughty man.

https://www.itv.com/news/tyne-tees/2023-12-21/seni...
Presumption of innocence applies, of course.

If convicted of PCJ then a prison sentence (immediate or suspended) is a virtual certainty.

“In 2021, around 570 offenders were sentenced for perverting the course of justice and all of these were sentenced at the Crown Court. Around half of these offenders (51 per cent) were sentenced to immediate custody and a further 43 per cent were given a suspended sentence order. Community orders accounted for 4 per cent of offenders sentenced, less than 0.5 per cent were given a fine, 1 per cent were given a discharge and 2 per cent were recorded as otherwise dealt with.

Perverting the course of justice is a Common Law offence and, as such, the maximum sentence is life imprisonment. For those receiving immediate custody in 2021, the (mean) average custodial sentence length was 1 year. “

- Sentencing Council

agtlaw

7,273 posts

228 months

Tuesday 26th December 2023
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Police staff jailed for deleting speeding offences.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cw90d7gr90eo


TGCOTF-dewey

7,179 posts

77 months

Tuesday 26th December 2023
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Given how zealous NYP are with their anti-speeding rhetoric and the sheer number of mobile cameras, this really boils my piss.

Especially as they're utterly useless when it comes to other policing.

NikBartlett

687 posts

103 months

Tuesday 26th December 2023
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agtlaw said:
Police staff jailed for deleting speeding offences.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cw90d7gr90eo
What happened to all those who benefited from their actions ?

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

76 months

Tuesday 26th December 2023
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NikBartlett said:
agtlaw said:
Police staff jailed for deleting speeding offences.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cw90d7gr90eo
What happened to all those who benefited from their actions ?
Details deleted so couldn't be found?

NikBartlett

687 posts

103 months

Tuesday 26th December 2023
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pocketspring said:
NikBartlett said:
agtlaw said:
Police staff jailed for deleting speeding offences.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cw90d7gr90eo
What happened to all those who benefited from their actions ?
Details deleted so couldn't be found?
Backups ? File History ? Or were they clever enough or had sufficient privileges to do a proper wipe of the records with no chance of recovery of the data ?

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

76 months

Tuesday 26th December 2023
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NikBartlett said:
pocketspring said:
NikBartlett said:
agtlaw said:
Police staff jailed for deleting speeding offences.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cw90d7gr90eo
What happened to all those who benefited from their actions ?
Details deleted so couldn't be found?
Backups ? File History ? Or were they clever enough or had sufficient privileges to do a proper wipe of the records with no chance of recovery of the data ?
You'd hope so otherwise what they did was a complete waste of time and screwed themselves over for nothing! laughjudge

fridaypassion

11,036 posts

250 months

Tuesday 26th December 2023
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Absolutely no chance he'll get anything but a telling off and a few weeks on desk duty.

The police are completely corrupt and have kept on officers that have done much much worse.

carinaman

24,175 posts

194 months

Tuesday 26th December 2023
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agtlaw said:
Police staff jailed for deleting speeding offences.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cw90d7gr90eo
The Guardian coverage had a better headline:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/dec/23/ja...

Caddyshack

13,610 posts

228 months

Tuesday 26th December 2023
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I am probably a bit weird but I am perfectly happy that a senior policeman might get off the odd speeding ticket.

nismo48

6,135 posts

229 months

Tuesday 26th December 2023
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Caddyshack said:
I am probably a bit weird but I am perfectly happy that a senior policeman might get off the odd speeding ticket.
Strange but your probably not unique

Louis Balfour

28,176 posts

244 months

Tuesday 26th December 2023
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fridaypassion said:
Absolutely no chance he'll get anything but a telling off and a few weeks on desk duty.

The police are completely corrupt and have kept on officers that have done much much worse.
An ex copper told me why this appears to be the case. His exact words were, "you never know when you might need a fellow officer to support you, so you always support your fellow officers, regardless of what they do".




fridaypassion

11,036 posts

250 months

Tuesday 26th December 2023
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Mrs is ex plod!

hidetheelephants

33,203 posts

215 months

Tuesday 26th December 2023
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Caddyshack said:
I am probably a bit weird but I am perfectly happy that a senior policeman might get off the odd speeding ticket.
Why? What about junior police? Or police cadets? Should the partners of police get the same dispensation? Or their children? Retired police? Civilian police workers? How about judges or magistrates? Or perhaps we should all get the same treatment? Plus it's a bit irrelevant given the OP is about an officer allegedly lying to avoid a ticket, which is gross misconduct right out of the box and nothing to do with how fast they were going.

Caddyshack

13,610 posts

228 months

Tuesday 26th December 2023
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hidetheelephants said:
Caddyshack said:
I am probably a bit weird but I am perfectly happy that a senior policeman might get off the odd speeding ticket.
Why? What about junior police? Or police cadets? Should the partners of police get the same dispensation? Or their children? Retired police? Civilian police workers? How about judges or magistrates? Or perhaps we should all get the same treatment? Plus it's a bit irrelevant given the OP is about an officer allegedly lying to avoid a ticket, which is gross misconduct right out of the box and nothing to do with how fast they were going.
I’m going with the ones who get to drive cars in the job. I think their training should mean they are equipped to drive a little faster better.

But then, I also think mortgage brokers should be allowed blue lights for when in a hurry too. ;-)

105.4

4,214 posts

93 months

Tuesday 26th December 2023
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“Chances of a prison sentence?”

Absolutely 0%.

It’s a special club and scummy plebs like you and I aren’t in it. But don’t worry, ’lessons will be learnt’.