Small weird things you've noticed about cars...
Small weird things you've noticed about cars...
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jimmy156

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3,834 posts

217 months

Friday 29th December 2023
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Just realised after around 5 years of ownership that the max volume in a 2014 Qasqai is 31. why 31?

What weird things have you noticed about cars over the years?

Nickp82

3,962 posts

123 months

Friday 29th December 2023
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Because it’s one more than 30.

TooLateForAName

4,930 posts

214 months

Friday 29th December 2023
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jimmy156 said:
Just realised after around 5 years of ownership that the max volume in a 2014 Qasqai is 31. why 31?
range of 0-312 means that it uses 5 bits to store the volume : binary values 00000 through 11111


Edited by TooLateForAName on Friday 29th December 22:18

Fast and Spurious

1,802 posts

118 months

Friday 29th December 2023
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TooLateForAName said:
jimmy156 said:
Just realised after around 5 years of ownership that the max volume in a 2014 Qasqai is 31. why 31?
range of 0-32 means that it uses 5 bits to store the volume : binary values 00000 through 11111
Huh? So why 31....

-crookedtail-

1,593 posts

220 months

Friday 29th December 2023
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Does your Qashqai now have blown speakers? biggrin

Dg504

365 posts

193 months

Friday 29th December 2023
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Fast and Spurious said:
TooLateForAName said:
jimmy156 said:
Just realised after around 5 years of ownership that the max volume in a 2014 Qasqai is 31. why 31?
range of 0-32 means that it uses 5 bits to store the volume : binary values 00000 through 11111
Huh? So why 31....
Not sure who’s more drunk but 11111 binary is 31 decimal so presume they meant 0-31 range

autumnsum

435 posts

61 months

Friday 29th December 2023
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Fast and Spurious said:
Huh? So why 31....
Because 0 is off.

TooLateForAName

4,930 posts

214 months

Friday 29th December 2023
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Dg504 said:
Fast and Spurious said:
TooLateForAName said:
jimmy156 said:
Just realised after around 5 years of ownership that the max volume in a 2014 Qasqai is 31. why 31?
range of 0-32 means that it uses 5 bits to store the volume : binary values 00000 through 11111
Huh? So why 31....
Not sure who’s more drunk but 11111 binary is 31 decimal so presume they meant 0-31 range
yeah - this.

32 possible values so 0->31

I knew what I meant...


Edited by TooLateForAName on Friday 29th December 22:20

jimmy156

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3,834 posts

217 months

Friday 29th December 2023
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-crookedtail- said:
Does your Qashqai now have blown speakers? biggrin
Haha no, its amazingly pathetic even at full volume!

Thanks for all the logical explanations! I honestly thought it was just random!

heisthegaffer

4,296 posts

228 months

Friday 29th December 2023
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jimmy156 said:
Just realised after around 5 years of ownership that the max volume in a 2014 Qasqai is 31. why 31?

What weird things have you noticed about cars over the years?
I read that Spinal Tap had a hand in designing the Quashqai.

QJumper

3,238 posts

56 months

Saturday 30th December 2023
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heisthegaffer said:
I read that Spinal Tap had a hand in designing the Quashqai.
Indeed, and they used Dobly for noise reduction.

Mr Tidy

31,534 posts

157 months

Sunday 31st December 2023
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heisthegaffer said:
I read that Spinal Tap had a hand in designing the Quashqai.
It could have been worse - at least it wasn't the Juke!

sherman

15,246 posts

245 months

Sunday 31st December 2023
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Mr Tidy said:
heisthegaffer said:
I read that Spinal Tap had a hand in designing the Quashqai.
It could have been worse - at least it wasn't the Juke!
They had a hand in that too.
Smashed up the front with a well placed guitar swing or 11.

Watcher of the skies

1,320 posts

67 months

Sunday 31st December 2023
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Don't you mean 10?

QBee

22,485 posts

174 months

Sunday 31st December 2023
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TooLateForAName said:
Dg504 said:
Fast and Spurious said:
TooLateForAName said:
jimmy156 said:
Just realised after around 5 years of ownership that the max volume in a 2014 Qasqai is 31. why 31?
range of 0-32 means that it uses 5 bits to store the volume : binary values 00000 through 11111
Huh? So why 31....
Not sure who’s more drunk but 11111 binary is 31 decimal so presume they meant 0-31 range
yeah - this.

32 possible values so 0->31

I knew what I meant...


Edited by TooLateForAName on Friday 29th December 22:20
Me too. But well done for spotting it.

If you can only use 1s and 0s to write numbers, (or ons and offs if you are a computer), then 11111 is how you write 31, because it is made up of 16 + 8 + 4 + 2 + 1
If you wrote 11110, it would be 16 + 8 + 4 + 2 + 0, so 30.

Hence why computer RAM used to be 16k back in the 1980s, not 15k, then went to 32k, then 64k etc, 128k, 256
Even now, you see laptops with 256Gb SSD drives, not 250 Gb. 256 is a multiple of 2, 250 isn't.

kambites

71,499 posts

251 months

Sunday 31st December 2023
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I very much doubt that's the actual reason anyway. A modern car's software will be written in a high level language where the programmer doesn't need to care how the numbers are being stored and manipulated internally and even if they do understand enough about the underlying hardware to know, with even the slowest of modern processors running at hundreds of millions of operations per second, who cares if your volume translation takes a couple of extra clock cycles?

That said, I've no other inkling as to why the highest volume would be 31 so maybe that particular system was written by a particularly geeky programmer. smile

legless

2,039 posts

170 months

Sunday 31st December 2023
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kambites said:
I very much doubt that's the actual reason anyway. A modern car's software will be written in a high level language where the programmer doesn't need to care how the numbers are being stored and manipulated internally and even if they do understand enough about the underlying hardware to know, with even the slowest of modern processors running at hundreds of millions of operations per second, who cares if your volume translation takes a couple of extra clock cycles?

That said, I've no other inkling as to why the highest volume would be 31 so maybe that particular system was written by a particularly geeky programmer. smile
It's probably little to do with the programming. It's almost certainly down to the use of an IC (probably a cheap DA converter) somewhere in the amplifier circuit that only accepts a 5-bit input for the volume.

Down on the Farm

233 posts

83 months

Sunday 31st December 2023
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More idiosyncratic or OCD than weird but my wife's Lexus hybrid displays the hybrid drivetrain animated graphic and depicts the hybrid battery state of charge in 8 blocks that turn blue when each increment is Satisfied i.e. 8 x 12.5% = 100%.

My logical and OCD brain wishes it to be 10 blocks = 10 x 10% = 100%.

Maybe it correlates to number of battery cells in a bank or maybe it's completely arbitrary but why not scale it 10 x 10% = 100%.

There must have been a reason in the programmers/developers mind but I can't think why.

kambites

71,499 posts

251 months

Sunday 31st December 2023
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legless said:
It's probably little to do with the programming. It's almost certainly down to the use of an IC (probably a cheap DA converter) somewhere in the amplifier circuit that only accepts a 5-bit input for the volume.
It would be very unusual to simply copy the value from the IC straight onto the user interface or something like a modern car. If nothing else it stops you from using a second-source IC with a different register interface and disguising the difference behind the software. Besides, most of the simple DA and AD converters we use seem to use some convoluted value and shift interface rather than a simple linear value.

Bit off topic, anyway. biggrin

Edited by kambites on Sunday 31st December 10:49

kambites

71,499 posts

251 months

Sunday 31st December 2023
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Down on the Farm said:
My logical and OCD brain wishes it to be 10 blocks = 10 x 10% = 100%.
Why would tenths be any more logical than eighths? smile

Car fuel gauges have for years had major marks at the half and quarter points, not at tenths.