RE: Ferrari 458 Italia | Spotted
RE: Ferrari 458 Italia | Spotted
Tuesday 2nd January 2024

Ferrari 458 Italia | Spotted

2024 means it's 15 years since the 458 redefined the supercar - this one looks a corker


Happy New Year then folks, welcome back to the real world. No more biscuits for breakfast, pigs in blankets for lunch and drinking whenever you want. With a nice walk to try and offset it. 2024 is here, and there’s no escaping it - here’s to a happy and healthy one for all of you. 

Inevitably there will be some automotive anniversaries to celebrate over the next 12 months; we’ve already taken a look back at some of our favourites launched in 2004. Don’t be surprised if the retrospectives are even more emotional in 2024, too; nostalgia is a powerful tool, and with the future looking so uncertain for those who like fast cars (you might even say unnerving) the past is a safe space for us all to get lost in. What’s coming up can be scary; what we look back on is almost always remembered fondly. 

The Ferrari 458 Italia needs no rose tinted specs to be recalled as one of the greats. First seen at the Frankfurt motor show in 2009, it’ll celebrate 15 years in 2024. There are cars out there for sale on 2010 plates, which feels incredible for a car that still looks so modern and which influenced Ferrari for such a long time after its launch. 

It’s probably fair to say that modern Ferrari begins with the 458. Prior to this car there were still manual gearboxes, fairly modest power outputs and not so much tech. This car then introduced DCTs for the berlinettas (and they would never look back), an even more advanced suite of driver aids (making for the most thrilling mid-engined berlinetta yet) and a design that immediately made its predecessor look very old indeed. From the 458 Ferrari went from strength to strength, the entire lineup getting a total reinvention with each subsequent replacement from 2009: old-school and awkward 612 became the  innovative, interesting four-wheel drive FF, and the 599 was blown away by the lighter, smaller, even more powerful f12. Generational change had never been so great, and the 458 was the first of its kind. 

As well as being so good out of the box, the Italia also became the last naturally aspirated V8 from Ferrari, so its legendary status has been assured for a very long time. Residuals have stayed strong as a result, too; if any have been for sale since 2015 for significantly less than £100,000, we’ve not seen them. Which isn’t bad going for a car that was from £170,000 new all those years ago. 

This one was a fair bit more than that in 2011, thanks to a £40,000 options spend. That included a lot of carbon and alcantara inside, plus forged wheels. The spec looks sombre in a sea of Rosso Corsa, but then not everyone likes red Ferraris. What everyone does like to see is a full main dealer service history and just two owners - 22k is on the low side as well. Though recently in storage, this 458 had a major service 1,500 miles ago, so should be ready for whatever 2024 has in store. 

It’s for sale at £125,000; as might be expected, there are even lower mileage examples for more money, and those with more miles and owners for a bit less. What’s most interesting, however, is that a 458 is now comparable in terms of money to the later, turbocharged 488 - this GTB is five years newer, comparable in terms of mileage, and a smidge over £130k. A tough decision, for sure, because Ferrari took to turbos spectacularly as well.  Which would it be?


SPECIFICATION | FERRARI 458 ITALIA

Engine: 4,497cc, V8
Transmission: 7-speed dual-clutch, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 570@9,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 398@6,000rpm
MPG: 21.2
CO2: 307g/km
First registered: 2011
Recorded mileage: 22,000
Price new: £169,545 (2009, before options)
Yours for: £125,000

See the original advert here

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sidesauce

Original Poster:

2,967 posts

248 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2024
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Lovely spec on the that one, it must be said - I even like the colour!

Dombilano

1,447 posts

85 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2024
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I've always liked the 458 compared to the later 488's, less fussy design

Howard1650

345 posts

221 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2024
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One of the best looking Ferrari for a long tme.m The more modern Ferrari styling has become too aggressive and over-the-top, with excessive use of aerodynamic elements that can detract from the classic elegance of earlier designs. These are road cars after all.

pb8g09

3,231 posts

99 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2024
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A lot of people on these forums make remarks about cars 'still looking like a fresh design' and I often disagree.

But this car, to me, still looks like a fresh design. A private plate and I'd be none the wiser that it's double digits in age. Looks superb.

cerb4.5lee

44,725 posts

210 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2024
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I always remember being impressed with how much power Ferrari got out of this engine at the time. TVR only managed 420bhp out of the same size engine in the Cerbera for example.

daytona111r

897 posts

234 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2024
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Growing on me, the 458. Much prettier than the ugly 488.

Nish Gnackers

1,173 posts

71 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2024
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Mine back in 2017 collecting it from Graypaul cloud9


Nomme de Plum

7,050 posts

46 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2024
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Probably the best car I have ever driven. I've never felt more at one with a car. One for deep pockets though and the opportunity cost was just too great for me.

stuart100

1,173 posts

87 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2024
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cerb4.5lee said:
I always remember being impressed with how much power Ferrari got out of this engine at the time. TVR only managed 420bhp out of the same size engine in the Cerbera for example.
How impressed are you with the BMW E9X M3s? They achieve around 420bhp with only 4.0L.

Horsebox Man

107 posts

46 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2024
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stuart100 said:
cerb4.5lee said:
I always remember being impressed with how much power Ferrari got out of this engine at the time. TVR only managed 420bhp out of the same size engine in the Cerbera for example.
How impressed are you with the BMW E9X M3s? They achieve around 420bhp with only 4.0L.
but are turbocharged, by that metric the A45 is more impressive with the same power but from a 2.0L.

GT9

9,016 posts

202 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2024
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stuart100 said:
How impressed are you with the BMW E9X M3s? They achieve around 420bhp with only 4.0L.
War and peace incoming. smile

stuart100

1,173 posts

87 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2024
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GT9 said:
stuart100 said:
How impressed are you with the BMW E9X M3s? They achieve around 420bhp with only 4.0L.
War and peace incoming. smile
drink

stuart100

1,173 posts

87 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2024
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Horsebox Man said:
stuart100 said:
cerb4.5lee said:
I always remember being impressed with how much power Ferrari got out of this engine at the time. TVR only managed 420bhp out of the same size engine in the Cerbera for example.
How impressed are you with the BMW E9X M3s? They achieve around 420bhp with only 4.0L.
but are turbocharged, by that metric the A45 is more impressive with the same power but from a 2.0L.
E9X's are not turbocharged.

samoht

7,248 posts

176 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2024
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458 Speciale 597hp 4.5L 133 hp/litre
458 Italia 562hp 4.5L 125 hp/litre
S2000 237hp 2.0L 119 hp/litre
E90 M3 414hp 4.0L 104 hp/litre
Cerbera 420hp 4.5L 93 hp/litre

All normally aspirated. First three are the highest I know of, last two included as mentioned here. All V8s apart from the S2k I4.

stuart100

1,173 posts

87 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2024
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samoht said:
458 Speciale 597hp 4.5L 133 hp/litre
458 Italia 562hp 4.5L 125 hp/litre
S2000 237hp 2.0L 119 hp/litre
E90 M3 414hp 4.0L 104 hp/litre
Cerbera 420hp 4.5L 93 hp/litre

All normally aspirated. First three are the highest I know of, last two included as mentioned here. All V8s apart from the S2k I4.
There are others like the GMA T50, Ariel Atom, Ferrari 812, Porsche 992 GT3 that would be higher than some of those above.

cerb4.5lee

44,725 posts

210 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2024
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stuart100 said:
GT9 said:
stuart100 said:
How impressed are you with the BMW E9X M3s? They achieve around 420bhp with only 4.0L.
War and peace incoming. smile
drink
biggrin

garypotter

2,069 posts

180 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2024
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Wow! i cannot belive this car is 15 tyears old

Still a great looking car especially in Black

samoht

7,248 posts

176 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2024
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I think what's interesting about the 458's position in the market is that it's so desired, it's opened something of a 'gap' in the Ferrari market between the older F430 sub £100k and the 458 from £125k upwards.

The fact that the F8 is basically the same chassis and has only just gone out of production is probably part of why the 458 still looks fresh. I love the delicacy of the front wings. Aesthetically, hacking a hole into the side of the car for intercooling didn't improve it, although the later cars still look pretty good in the metal I think.


georgeyboy12345

4,620 posts

65 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2024
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They are certainly striking to look at, and much better looking than the F430 that preceded it, I wouldn’t say they are as good looking as the F355. To drive however, utterly fantastic, just for the engine alone. But the rest of it is also great.

Baldchap

9,627 posts

122 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2024
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I really like that. The design hasn't aged at all to my eyes.