Debt collectors are chasing someone elses debt at my address
Debt collectors are chasing someone elses debt at my address
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s91

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138 posts

103 months

Thursday 4th January 2024
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Thought I'd ask PH before picking up the phone in case anyone else has experienced this -

A few weeks ago I received a letter to my address, but under someone else's name, stating that they owed money, it said to get in touch with them but ignored it as it looked like a scam.

Yesterday I get home to find an envelope with a hand written name and address on the front, and a card inside saying they visited at X time on X date and to contact their head office.


To be clear - I haven't ever owed anyone any money, I do not have any debt. This is not my debt and I have no idea who the named person is on the letter.

I was planning to call them but has anyone else had to deal with this and is there a correct way to go about it?

sixor8

8,009 posts

292 months

Thursday 4th January 2024
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I had this happen to me in the early 1990s shortly after moving into a house. Previous owner owed money and I explained the situation to the debt collectors, never heard anything more.

I wouldn't ignore it, if you have lived there a while, it may be somebody using your address and needs sorting out, otherwise there may be credit repercussions on your address. frown

mike_e

595 posts

287 months

Thursday 4th January 2024
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Had exactly this. My mother's carer lived in for a while and used the postal address. Mother passes away, carer departs followed later by endless letters and eventually the arrival of a debt collector on the doorstep. Very early morning visit, official looking uniformed guy banging at the door. Unfortunately my partner and the carer share the same first name (SAM) and her Range Rover has a personalised plate. The guy thought he'd got a result and took some convincing initially. (Looking back at the CCTV we saw him photographing her car before knocking). I told him the person had moved on, whereabouts unknown, and he eventually went away saying he'd update their records. No further visits since. It's a non-issue for you, unless they have CCJs registered at your address, this can affect your credit rating. Phone the number and explain they've moved, should be the end of the matter.

ianrb

1,629 posts

164 months

Thursday 4th January 2024
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When I had this, i.e. not my debt, but my address, I wrote "Not known at this address, return to sender" on the envelope and stuck it in the post box.

Hey presto, the problem disapeared!


BertBert

20,950 posts

235 months

Thursday 4th January 2024
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ianrb said:
When I had this, i.e. not my debt, but my address, I wrote "Not known at this address, return to sender" on the envelope and stuck it in the post box.

Hey presto, the problem disapeared!
But the OP has had a visit. So unless your plan would be to write "not known at this address" on the visitor's forehead when they next visit it may not be very helpful advice!

C5_Steve

7,694 posts

127 months

Thursday 4th January 2024
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Just give them a call and tell them the person they're looking for doesn't live at your address. I had similar with unpaid council tax years after I moved in for the previous tenants. Called whoever was chasing, told them they no longer lived here for x number of years and that was the last I heard.

If you don't contact them they'll keep chasing so best to be proactive. Just keep a record of when you called and who you spoke to just in case.

ianrb

1,629 posts

164 months

Thursday 4th January 2024
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BertBert said:
ianrb said:
When I had this, i.e. not my debt, but my address, I wrote "Not known at this address, return to sender" on the envelope and stuck it in the post box.

Hey presto, the problem disapeared!
But the OP has had a visit. So unless your plan would be to write "not known at this address" on the visitor's forehead when they next visit it may not be very helpful advice!
Ah, it's a new year, but the same old Bert! Tediously labouring away at a pedantic point while missing the bigger picture.


OddCat

2,793 posts

195 months

Thursday 4th January 2024
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ianrb said:
BertBert said:
ianrb said:
When I had this, i.e. not my debt, but my address, I wrote "Not known at this address, return to sender" on the envelope and stuck it in the post box.

Hey presto, the problem disapeared!
But the OP has had a visit. So unless your plan would be to write "not known at this address" on the visitor's forehead when they next visit it may not be very helpful advice!
Ah, it's a new year, but the same old Bert! Tediously labouring away at a pedantic point while missing the bigger picture.
Well, it made me laugh laugh

BertBert

20,950 posts

235 months

Thursday 4th January 2024
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OddCat said:
ianrb said:
BertBert said:
ianrb said:
When I had this, i.e. not my debt, but my address, I wrote "Not known at this address, return to sender" on the envelope and stuck it in the post box.

Hey presto, the problem disapeared!
But the OP has had a visit. So unless your plan would be to write "not known at this address" on the visitor's forehead when they next visit it may not be very helpful advice!
Ah, it's a new year, but the same old Bert! Tediously labouring away at a pedantic point while missing the bigger picture.
Well, it made me laugh laugh
And me too!
Less of the "old" though biggrin

119

17,473 posts

60 months

Thursday 4th January 2024
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C5_Steve said:
Just give them a call and tell them the person they're looking for doesn't live at your address. I had similar with unpaid council tax years after I moved in for the previous tenants. Called whoever was chasing, told them they no longer lived here for x number of years and that was the last I heard.

If you don't contact them they'll keep chasing so best to be proactive. Just keep a record of when you called and who you spoke to just in case.
Amazing how simple it is really.

Cold

16,437 posts

114 months

Thursday 4th January 2024
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s91

Original Poster:

138 posts

103 months

Thursday 4th January 2024
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Cold said:
And how tediously ineffective it is these days too. Does anyone think that a simple phonecall or writing "not known at this address" on an envelope will mean no more will be heard from the debt collector by the OP?
This will drag on for some time yet with the OP having to repeat themselves over and again. It always does.
My concern was that it wouldn't be so easy otherwise anyone with an actual debt could simply avoid it by doing the same thing.


Anyway an update - I rang the company who said they would take me off their record and to send the initial letter back to them, they also made a point of telling me that opening mail addressed to other people is illegal, but at the time I didn't notice the name, only that the letter said URGENT or similar on the envelope and I rushed to open it thinking what on earth is this? Only to realise that it was the wrong name.

48k

16,467 posts

172 months

Thursday 4th January 2024
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s91 said:
My concern was that it wouldn't be so easy otherwise anyone with an actual debt could simply avoid it by doing the same thing.


Anyway an update - I rang the company who said they would take me off their record and to send the initial letter back to them, they also made a point of telling me that opening mail addressed to other people is illegal, but at the time I didn't notice the name, only that the letter said URGENT or similar on the envelope and I rushed to open it thinking what on earth is this? Only to realise that it was the wrong name.
Debatable in this scenario since it could be argued that you had reasonable excuse to open the letter and your action was not intended to be to the detriment of the intended recipient. (Postal Services Act 2000 section 84 subsection 3 )

In the case of the second item, if that was personally delivered and not posted via Royal Mail then I don't believe the Postal Services Act applies at all.

Simpo Two

91,536 posts

289 months

Thursday 4th January 2024
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s91 said:
they also made a point of telling me that opening mail addressed to other people is illegal
How petty of them. You helped them by not throwing it away, and by taking the time to contact them about their mistake.

Ussrcossack

917 posts

66 months

Thursday 4th January 2024
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Simpo Two said:
How petty of them. You helped them by not throwing it away, and by taking the time to contact them about their mistake.
Very much so.

Typical of the industry.

Buying depts for pennies and hoping to live in the fortune

119

17,473 posts

60 months

Thursday 4th January 2024
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konark

1,226 posts

143 months

Thursday 4th January 2024
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48k said:
s91 said:
My concern was that it wouldn't be so easy otherwise anyone with an actual debt could simply avoid it by doing the same thing.


Anyway an update - I rang the company who said they would take me off their record and to send the initial letter back to them, they also made a point of telling me that opening mail addressed to other people is illegal, but at the time I didn't notice the name, only that the letter said URGENT or similar on the envelope and I rushed to open it thinking what on earth is this? Only to realise that it was the wrong name.
Debatable in this scenario since it could be argued that you had reasonable excuse to open the letter and your action was not intended to be to the detriment of the intended recipient. (Postal Services Act 2000 section 84 subsection 3 )

In the case of the second item, if that was personally delivered and not posted via Royal Mail then I don't believe the Postal Services Act applies at all.
All debt collectors are skilled in the art of total b0ll0cks.

Mikebentley

8,363 posts

164 months

Thursday 4th January 2024
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Ussrcossack said:
Simpo Two said:
How petty of them. You helped them by not throwing it away, and by taking the time to contact them about their mistake.
Very much so.

Typical of the industry.

Buying depts for pennies and hoping to live in the fortune
You’re mistaken they don’t “buy” debts if they are a regulated debt recovery company using Court Certified Enforcement Agents. Saying that the OP shouldn’t have opened the letter was wrong though and they should be grateful for him contacting them as it will save further wasted time.

Writing “not known at this address” on postal letters though unfortunately doesn’t stop action as it’s what a debtor would likely do.

wiliferus

4,203 posts

222 months

Thursday 4th January 2024
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I had this situation too. We’re tenants so I contacted the landlord to get a forwarding address for previous tenants. Happy days!
Rang the debt collector to inform them that the person that they were chasing wasn’t at this address, but I could give them their new address - Sorry, due to GDPR we can’t take that address from you. Bonkers.

cliffords

3,701 posts

47 months

Thursday 4th January 2024
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I have had it here to at our house. Been here two years . Letters and debt collectors at the door . It takes time to sort and can make you feel a bit uncomfortable.
The debt collectors, twice, different firms all started off fairly unpleasant but once we had got past the fact I was a different person they became more civil.

When you prove you are not who they are after and explain you don't know who the person is or where they live they get fairly deflated.