RE: Odds-on future classics | Six of the Best
RE: Odds-on future classics | Six of the Best
Sunday 7th January 2024

Odds-on future classics | Six of the Best

The new car landscape will soon change drastically - which of the current crop might be coveted come 2034?


Porsche 911 Carrera T, 2023, 1,982 miles, £109,950

Not many of us could have predicted what’s happened to classic car values over the past decade or so. We’d be a lot wealthier if we had. In the days of £5k S2000s, £2k 306 GTI-6s and four-figure M5s, it was assumed they’d just sort of stay that way. Then it sort of didn’t, and as the combustion engine moves towards its end, the situation doesn’t look likely to be reversed anytime soon. Pity. And while these six aren’t exactly bargain basement buys (we’ll save that for another time), they all look like both tremendous cars right now and collectible - let’s not obsess over values just yet - in the not-too-distant future as well. A Carrera T kicks us off, because the fondness for Rubystone 911s with manual gearboxes, light glass and cloth seats shows no sign of going anywhere. Not the most exciting 992 yet made (a Carrera S with more power is available for less) but a very fine modern sports car nonetheless. And just think - this’ll be the old-school, tech-light, compact one come 2040…

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Audi R8 V10 Performance RWD, 2023, 500 miles, £119,850 

One to tell the grandkids about, or even just the children when they listen to you in a couple of years: Audi once made a mid-engined, rear-wheel drive, 8,500rpm V10 supercar, and it was fantastic. Soon the R8 will be gone from the configurator, gone from adverts and gone from comparison tests, not to be replaced. Or at least not with anything like the car we know, Audi launching headfirst into its EV revamp. Still, nobody expected much of a four-ringed 911 rival in 2007, and the original R8 was a 21st-century great, so you never know what might happen. The second-gen ably mixed it with junior supercars, too: fast, usable, desirable and exciting. It’ll be sorely missed in all its guises, that glorious 5.2-litre V10 and superb DCT truly a powertrain for the ages. A box-fresh RWD Performance on modest wheels sounds just about perfect, for 2023 and a long time beyond as well. 

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Ford Focus ST Edition, 2021, 13k, £27,995

The demise of V10 supercars is disappointing, yes, but hardly likely to impact many. No more fast Fords, however, feels really big for everybody. No doubt there will be additional STs like the (admittedly very decent) Puma, but a Blue Oval pocket rocket - be it Fiesta or Focus - has been part of the fast car firmament for decades. To be without both is going to be a real wrench, especially as the latest generation has been fantastic. An ST doesn’t have the cachet of an RS, sure, and an Edition like this is unlikely to retain its value quite as doggedly as the fastest Focuses, but it’s blue like all the best ones are - and fantastic to drive. One of these with the KW suspension and flow-formed wheels (also found in the later Track Pack) are hidden gems, a proper hot hatch hero to sign this Focus off with. This 13,000-miler is £27,995. 

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Lexus LC500 Convertible, 2021, 1,153 miles, £82,000

The finest rolling anachronism around, and one that will be drawing admiring glances for decades to come. The Lexus LC500, despite being launched half a decade ago, still looks like it could roll onto a motor show stand as the future of EV grand touring - and the interest would come flooding in. Yet it's powered by a great hunk of V8, the 5.0-litre ripsnorter that’s made various F-badged Lexuses into extremely likeable fast cars over the past 15 years or so. Yes, the 10 gears are too long and, no, it won’t handle as dextrously as a 911, but let’s not miss the point here. The LC500 looks a million dollars, makes a fantastic sound, and is beautifully built. It won’t be a bad day if it starts in a drop-top ‘500. This one is a couple of years but just a thousand miles old, so still actually has a couple of months warranty on it. And more than £30k off new…

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Renault Sport Megane 300 Trophy, 2022, 6k, £32,899

Is this a contentious one? Perhaps. It’s true that the most recent Renault Sport Meganes were’t quite as adored by the die-hards as earlier iterations, but looking into the future it’s impossible to avoid the fact that these 300s were the final cars with that fabled R.S. badge on them, and that’s surely got to count for something. Especially when the body those badges are affixed to is such a stylish one: in a world of boring Golfs and OTT Civics, the Megane struck the balance perfectly. And they were so exciting to drive; not ideal for the more mature vibe, but fast and flighty and focused like the best French hot hatches. Shame the 4WS wasn’t great. This 2022 car will be one of the last, looks fab in Liquid Yellow and has just 6k miles - the DCT will be perfect for playing the tarmac rally driver, too. 

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Alpina B5 Touring, 2023, 4,500 miles, £99,980

A dead cert to finish. While Alpina has dabbled in all sorts over the decades, from manual roadsters to GT3 rivals to hotted-up diesels, it’s going to be the uber saloons and wagons that’ll be most revered when the company is finally absorbed into BMW. This B5 isn’t a last-of-the-line GT (the final Alpina 5 Series that’ll ever be made), though it’s hardly like the standard car lacks in any department. What more car does anyone ever need than a 205mph 5 Series Touring, sympathetically overhauled by a company that knows them better than any other? Exactly. This B5 is a real stunner as well, the Alpina hallmarks - the wheels, the deco set - very nicely integrated into a blue over cream colourway. With £20k off its new price, this is now M3 Touring money for a much rarer, more powerful car - we all know which one is most special already, let alone in 20 years. 

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Author
Discussion

RyCliff

Original Poster:

63 posts

152 months

Saturday 6th January 2024
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I think the value of classics has been doing well as you still have a good decade to enjoy them before we get into the hazy 2030s where legislation and fuel costs could make them a pain to run.

On that basis all of these cars could be incredibly expensive or legislatively challenging to run just as they might start to be considered a classic. We all moan about cats meant to be driven that aren't, these might all become just that and it's quite a big risk still IMO

IMI A

9,997 posts

231 months

Saturday 6th January 2024
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I genuinely look at those and can't think any of them will become future classics. Perhaps the R8 for that engine but its never really been loved being in the shadow of its Italian cousin..

Dombilano

1,447 posts

85 months

Saturday 6th January 2024
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Definitely not the warm Focus or worsethanitsancestors Megane.

Take your pick of any of the twin turbo V8 AMGs, or S58 engine BMWs for assured classic status

DrWildare

9 posts

104 months

Saturday 6th January 2024
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You may call the Megane worse than its ancestors but it was far better looking than the ghastly looking RS 250/275/285 Coupes. Also the chassis design and width was far more suitable for a hot hatch. Perhaps it wasn’t as attractive as the RS225, F1 Team Limited Edition or the R26 but in terms of set up the chassis is certainly superior.

Billy_Whizzzz

2,628 posts

173 months

Saturday 6th January 2024
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Wow that Lexus is hideous.

spikyone

1,914 posts

130 months

Saturday 6th January 2024
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Sorry to be pedantic but if you have that Lexus serviced at a main dealer you'll have a warranty that lasts for another 7 years, not a few months And they'll treat you like royalty whilst you're there, too. I love mine but not expecting it to go up in value - over the past few months they've actually dropped a fair bit.

I think I'd agree that none of those really look like future classics, particularly a not-that-hot Ford. If you've been smart enough to buy a late Focus RS or Fiesta ST and stick it in a climate-controlled garage you might be onto a big payday in 20 years but otherwise I just don't see it being thought of very highly. The problem with most of them is as suggested in the Porsche and Renault write-ups - they're too big, too tech-heavy, and stuff like the Renault, Ford, Porsche, and Audi all have predecessors that are simply cooler or better thought-of.

Short of being the star car of a movie or videogame (think A80 Supra or R34 GT-R) I don't see the Lexus becoming a classic, though I have no doubt that if it's properly rust-proofed (because Japanese) it will outlive any modern AMG/M/RS car, and it's rare enough to be well looked after.
The Alpina will do as all Alpinas do and quietly hold its value and coolness much better than the equivalent BMW. Nobody thinks of them as a classic, they just never really seem to drop in value because they attract just enough connoisseur enthusiasts.

Edited by spikyone on Saturday 6th January 08:25

mooseracer

2,789 posts

200 months

Saturday 6th January 2024
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Good luck to anyone buying the Lexus on the back of this

ChrisG99

19 posts

163 months

Saturday 6th January 2024
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£28k for a Focus ST? You can still get a mint MK3 RS for that money with low mileage which will be worth a lot more in the future.

And a Carrera T?

The only car in that list of any interest is the R8.

Portofino

5,355 posts

221 months

Saturday 6th January 2024
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Shoddy list, R8 for the engine at a push.

Robertb

3,858 posts

268 months

Saturday 6th January 2024
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718 GTS 4.0 manual would be my guess from the current Porsche lineup.

Robertb

3,858 posts

268 months

Saturday 6th January 2024
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mooseracer said:
Good luck to anyone buying the Lexus on the back of this
Indeed. Though an early coupe can now be had for low to mid £40s which is tempting as a proposition. As said above, get it serviced by Lexus and enjoy worry free V8 motoring for years.

Firebobby

994 posts

69 months

Saturday 6th January 2024
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The Focus for me, but only as a daily. It's about as much chance of becoming a classic as a boggo tdci! Run of the mill apart from a few trick bits. Flow formed wheels? Kerb one badly and you'll be back on standard ones before the paint dries.

S600BSB

8,402 posts

136 months

Saturday 6th January 2024
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Poor list.

Floater

83 posts

164 months

Saturday 6th January 2024
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Porsche Boxster 986/7 will be one of the heroes of the 21st century and a bonafide classic in the making. Get a good one now whilst you can.

Edgey1

58 posts

60 months

Saturday 6th January 2024
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No GR86? I'm sure the hype surrounding them following their launch assured them of future classic car status.

GreatScott2016

2,524 posts

118 months

Saturday 6th January 2024
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S600BSB said:
Poor list.
Inclined to agree. That's not to say I wouldn't enjoy driving some of them, but to tag them as future "classics", is pushing it a bit smile no doubt I'll go on to regret those words biglaugh

JJ77

582 posts

78 months

Saturday 6th January 2024
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Absurd list… just on Carrera T, say 991 T not 992 T… 991 T, 250 came to UK, 800+ for 992 T and still producing until April 2024.. at least 991 T is more to the Ethos of the T, last narrow body 911, door pulls. 992 makes a great first 911 but for anyone who has been buying up 911’s since the late 80’s, 992 is no 911, it’s bloated and lost all the interior charm.. this list is bizarre.

Kipsrs

712 posts

79 months

Saturday 6th January 2024
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Billy_Whizzzz said:
Wow that Lexus is hideous.
For that very reason, my money is on the Lexus. IMO, anything that ‘cutting edge’ in the visual department may well be revered in the future as EV’s possibly become more and more bland to look at… getmecoat

Lotobear

9,096 posts

158 months

Saturday 6th January 2024
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No GR Yaris?

cerb4.5lee

44,725 posts

210 months

Saturday 6th January 2024
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GreatScott2016 said:
S600BSB said:
Poor list.
Inclined to agree. That's not to say I wouldn't enjoy driving some of them, but to tag them as future "classics", is pushing it a bit smile no doubt I'll go on to regret those words biglaugh
I'm struggling to get excited by that list as well. The R8 is the only one that stands out to me, and I'd more than likely buy something like an AMG GT over it anyway.