Sir Tony Blair and the Post Office Scandal

[julian987R]

It all started with Blair
The origins of the scandal

A radically scaled down version of Horizon was considered formally for the first time in an HM Treasury Report of 5 May 1999, less than a week before ICL/Fujitsu’s final deadline for the Government to decide on Horizon’s future. Unable to reach consensus, Ministers once again called upon the Prime Minister for his guidance. Driven by wider political agendas which included the protection of Japanese inward investment in UK plc, Blair ruled that the Post Office MUST purchase a salvaged version of Horizon. Insufficient work had been done to determine the viability of this option and the Post Office itself was adamantly opposed to the idea. Right up until the day before the Prime Minister’s decision, the Post Office were vociferous; they wished to terminate Horizon and start afresh with a new supplier.

https://www.jfsa.org.uk/uploads/5/4/3/1/54312921/o...

The "List of Failures" sent to Tony Blair’s office.

[anonymous-user]

The Tories have been in charge for the last 13ish years
Their problem

[julian987R]

James6112 said:

The Tories have been in charge for the last 13ish years
Their problem

ok Tony, whatever you say.

[anonymous-user]

Well there’s a surprise dear old Tony

Sir Tony
Sir Ed
Sir Vince all three had a finger in the pie

Be suspicious of anyone with a knighthood or gong. Whole system is rotten to the core.

Expect there’s a load of lawyers who have been blocking things for years who have gongs. Old boys network and all that.

[Castrol for a knave]

Doesn't it get tiring Julian?

Shouting at buses, sycamores are woke, Rain X is turning schoolkids gay, Gordon Brown bummed your cat..

Just have a coffee, a st and go for a walk..

[julian987R]

Castrol for a knave said:

Doesn't it get tiring Julian?

Shouting at buses, sycamores are woke, Rain X is turning schoolkids gay, Gordon Brown bummed your cat..

Just have a coffee, a st and go for a walk..

sycamores are woke?
coffee at 10.30pm? I don't work for NORAD.

[Blue62]

Castrol for a knave said:

Doesn't it get tiring Julian?

Shouting at buses, sycamores are woke, Rain X is turning schoolkids gay, Gordon Brown bummed your cat..

Just have a coffee, a st and go for a walk..

I’m worried that our intrepid seeker of the truth and justice will now be distracted in his/her pursuit of Ed Davey with this new development. Surely it’s better to finish the job on Davey before turning the big guns on Blair?

[Castrol for a knave]

Blue62 said:

Castrol for a knave said:

Doesn't it get tiring Julian?

Shouting at buses, sycamores are woke, Rain X is turning schoolkids gay, Gordon Brown bummed your cat..

Just have a coffee, a st and go for a walk..

I’m worried that our intrepid seeker of the truth and justice will now be distracted in his/her pursuit of Ed Davey with this new development. Surely it’s better to finish the job on Davey before turning the big guns on Blair?

According to Julian, a recent survey in the Daily Express 78% of those polled said "fish"

[ATG]

julian987R said:

James6112 said:

The Tories have been in charge for the last 13ish years
Their problem

ok Tony, whatever you say.

You are unhinged

[greygoose]

James6112 said:

The Tories have been in charge for the last 13ish years
Their problem

Julian probably thinks the Tories just need another 13 years and they will fix it, they just haven’t had enough time, sadly he will keep spamming PH with his crap threads in the meantime.

[smifffymoto]

Tory or Labour are safe. No matter what they do or how big they fk up,they know the population are to weak to protest and drive any meaningful change.

[Disastrous]

Poor Julian. Egg, face.

[chrispmartha]

Wonder why Julian hasn’t started a thread asking who gave Paula Vennells a CBE?

[sugerbear]

chrispmartha said:

Wonder why Julian hasn’t started a thread asking who gave Paula Vennells a CBE?

Looking forward to the one they start with the Tory years from 2015 to 2023. Andrew Blagden needs his CBE removed as welll.

[Electro1980]

julian987R said:

It all started with Blair
The origins of the scandal

A radically scaled down version of Horizon was considered formally for the first time in an HM Treasury Report of 5 May 1999, less than a week before ICL/Fujitsu’s final deadline for the Government to decide on Horizon’s future. Unable to reach consensus, Ministers once again called upon the Prime Minister for his guidance. Driven by wider political agendas which included the protection of Japanese inward investment in UK plc, Blair ruled that the Post Office MUST purchase a salvaged version of Horizon. Insufficient work had been done to determine the viability of this option and the Post Office itself was adamantly opposed to the idea. Right up until the day before the Prime Minister’s decision, the Post Office were vociferous; they wished to terminate Horizon and start afresh with a new supplier.

https://www.jfsa.org.uk/uploads/5/4/3/1/54312921/o...

The "List of Failures" sent to Tony Blair’s office.

Having been involved in a few large IT projects, that list reads like every single one I have seen.

[julian987R]

I have asked the Mods to delete this thread as many here seem more interested in discussing me rather than Blair’s involvement in the PO scandal.

[Nomme de Plum]

So why is it still here?

[105.4]

smifffymoto said:

Tory or Labour are safe. No matter what they do or how big they fk up,they know the population are to weak to protest and drive any meaningful change.

And for 10 points, we have the correct answer. Well done Smiffy

However, I do note that those who claim to be the paragon of virtue, of seeking the truth and weeding out corruption are quick to dismiss, often through childish insults, claims of conspiracy theories, or general ‘whataboutism’, any such suggestion that those on their team may have had a hand or a degree of responsibility in whatever ballsup is the current flavour of the month.

Personally, I think that anyone in public office, regardless of the colour of their tie, who mis-uses, poorly manages, or otherwise squanders the public purse should be held accountable and personally financially responsible for their ineptitude.

[eliot]

julian987R said:

I have asked the Mods to delete this thread as many here seem more interested in discussing me rather than Blair’s involvement in the PO scandal.

or simply press the ignore thread button rather than sulk

[Castrol for a knave]

julian987R said:

I have asked the Mods to delete this thread as many here seem more interested in discussing me rather than Blair’s involvement in the PO scandal.

Maybe PH agrees with Smiffy and 105 and others, that this is something that crosses politics, and has exposed ministers of all parties who were left wanting, and highlighted those who stepped up to the plate.