Investing in precious metals
Investing in precious metals
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Gordon Hill

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2,412 posts

39 months

Thursday 11th January 2024
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For a few years now I've been diversifying into gold and silver, only a bit at a time and plan to keep it for a few years to see how it goes. I wouldn't invest most of my money in it but as a side line it's quite fun. Prices seem to be high at the moment so I'm not putting huge amounts in but does anybody else do this?

steveatesh

5,320 posts

188 months

Monday 22nd January 2024
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Actually just thinking of buying into gold now, not necessarily to make lots of money from it (I’m just hitting state pension, it’s more somewhere to park some money other than savings accounts) but in something which is, I believe, less likely to affected by inflation or sudden stock market shocks.

I know nothing about it though, I understand you can buy bars or coins ( I want the actual metal, not bits of paper) and have even seen the stuff at Costco.

Where did you start? I understand bars can be subject to CGT but coins are not?

Any advice very welcome!

Gordon Hill

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2,412 posts

39 months

Monday 22nd January 2024
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Well I only buy a gram or two at a time so I'm not buying huge amounts, maybe a couple of grams a month but it soon mounts up, also 1oz silver britannia.

alscar

8,349 posts

237 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2024
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steveatesh said:
Actually just thinking of buying into gold now, not necessarily to make lots of money from it (I’m just hitting state pension, it’s more somewhere to park some money other than savings accounts) but in something which is, I believe, less likely to affected by inflation or sudden stock market shocks.

I know nothing about it though, I understand you can buy bars or coins ( I want the actual metal, not bits of paper) and have even seen the stuff at Costco.

Where did you start? I understand bars can be subject to CGT but coins are not?

Any advice very welcome!
If buying Sovereigns and Britannia's in coin form then whether Gold or Silver both are free of any potential CGT.
Gold though are also free from any VAT on purchase unlike Silver.
If buying to keep at home ie in physical form you also need to consider safe storage -probably literally !
I've looked at previously but just concluded it all seems a bit of a faff.




thebraketester

15,574 posts

162 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2024
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Where do you buy it from at a reasonable market price?

RSTurboPaul

12,826 posts

282 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2024
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thebraketester said:
Where do you buy it from at a reasonable market price?
Chards
BullionByPost
Atkinsons
Baird Mint
Royal Mint

I'm sure there are more options out there too.

RM are stupidly expensive, though, which makes no sense when they are making the actual products (if you are looking at Britannias to avoid CGT).

They all track the global Spot price with an applied margin that may be larger or smaller than others, and with buy/sell spreads that vary - IIRC Chards has comparison tables but are cryptic as to which other companies are in the tables. lol

Hoofy

79,530 posts

306 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2024
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alscar said:
I've looked at previously but just concluded it all seems a bit of a faff.
Yep. Looked at it a few years ago and decided that I couldn't be arsed. Or I just have it lying about the house.

soad

34,387 posts

200 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2024
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Isn’t physical storage an issue? Coins certainly don’t cost what they did in 2005…and most bank branches have closed.

Gordon Hill

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2,412 posts

39 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2024
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Storage can be a problem, I inherited adequate storage from my late father so it's not for me. I'm not investing huge amounts but I am finding it a rather fun pastime. I aim to keep it long term so sudden volatility or fluctuations aren't really a concern for me.

anonymous-user

78 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2024
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Isn't buying anything less than 1OZ of gold a bit pointless as you pay so much more for it that it has to increase a fair amount just to get your money back?

Gordon Hill

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2,412 posts

39 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2024
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Depends how long you intend to keep it. If it's a long term thing then past price rises dictate that you really can't lose no matter how much you put in, I personally don't want to sink £1600 a time into a 1oz gold britannia so I buy silver ones.

r3g

3,750 posts

48 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2024
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Gordon Hill said:
For a few years now I've been diversifying into gold and silver, only a bit at a time and plan to keep it for a few years to see how it goes. I wouldn't invest most of my money in it but as a side line it's quite fun. Prices seem to be high at the moment so I'm not putting huge amounts in but does anybody else do this?
Thread you want is here : https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

2 GKC

2,266 posts

129 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2024
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Gordon Hill said:
Depends how long you intend to keep it. If it's a long term thing then past price rises dictate that you really can't lose no matter how much you put in, I personally don't want to sink £1600 a time into a 1oz gold britannia so I buy silver ones.
20% VAT on silver coins eats in any returns pretty hard

SlimJim16v

7,601 posts

167 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2024
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2 GKC said:
20% VAT on silver coins eats in any returns pretty hard
Also the cost:size ratio.
£400 of gold, 1 little sovereign,
£400 of silver, 14 1oz Britannias.