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DickyC

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49,805 posts

199 months

Tuesday 16th January
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For the first time in a few months I went round to Mercedes Newbury and saw this.



When did that happen? I thought they'd taken a big Citroën in part exchange.

What happened to Bruno Secco's doctrine of "horizontal homogeneity" and "vertical affinity" and "a Mercedes should always look like a Mercedes"?

LeeM135i

596 posts

55 months

Wednesday 17th January
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Not sure if that's an EQE or EQS? I had an EQE as a courtesy car last year and it was very nice, comfortable, latest tech, very quiet on the move. Needs a longer boot lid but I guess that would impact its aero efficiency?

At least it's not following BMW and Audi down the more grill the better rabbit hole.

DickyC

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49,805 posts

199 months

Wednesday 17th January
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I went back to check. It's an EQS, coming up a year old and yours for only £75,000 all but £1.

It still doesn't look like a Mercedes to me. Maybe the company used the advent of the EV to change course completely. I'm still amazed that the car has been around for a year or so and I had no idea of its existence.

MitchT

15,883 posts

210 months

Wednesday 17th January
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I'd never have had that down as a Mercedes. It looks like a Citroën with aftermarket wheels!

DickyC

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49,805 posts

199 months

Wednesday 17th January
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How Many Left quotes all EQS at Q3 2023:

995 total
39 SORN

ABMA

111 posts

21 months

Thursday 18th January
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DickyC said:
I went back to check. It's an EQS, coming up a year old and yours for only £75,000 all but £1.

It still doesn't look like a Mercedes to me. Maybe the company used the advent of the EV to change course completely. I'm still amazed that the car has been around for a year or so and I had no idea of its existence.
Actually it has been around since early 2022 (some are 71 plate).
But I agree they look very ordinary; nothing special about them.

DickyC

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Thursday 18th January
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ABMA said:
Actually it has been around since early 2022 (some are 71 plate).
But I agree they look very ordinary; nothing special about them.
The interior looked fabulous but that wouldn't compensate someone losing 25% in depreciation in a year.

Jon39

12,842 posts

144 months

Friday 19th January
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DickyC said:

For the first time in a few months I went round to Mercedes Newbury and saw this.



When did that happen? I thought they'd taken a big Citroën in part exchange.

What happened to Bruno Secco's doctrine of "horizontal homogeneity" and "vertical affinity" and "a Mercedes should always look like a Mercedes"?

Seems to have become a 'white elephant'.
EQS New Registrations;
2022 = 709
2023 = 388

Someone asked a main dealer, "Was this new showroom car specified here.?"
"No they just keep arriving", was the reply.
Do the dealers have to carry the financial risk, of being unable to sell their new cars ?

I think many M-B main dealers now appear to have a huge stock of new unsold EVs.
Have only been to a couple of dealers recently, but have never seen their showrooms as full before.
Could hardly walk between all the cars.
Noticed they still display information boards with each car, but they state nothing about the car, just the price and how much the finance is. Wondering about the engine for example, then try hunting for a sales person.

Stocking in the US seems to be even worse.



Surprising that an owner of a main dealer, should say that much publicly.

As you inferred Dicky, the EQE and EQS hardly look like aspirational, top of the range Mercedes-Benz cars.



Edited by Jon39 on Friday 19th January 12:48

DickyC

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199 months

Saturday 20th January
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Thanks for that, Jon.

Underlining this was the car existing at all and me not noticing. Even though I'm retired now I'm still interested in cars and still drive quite a lot. I guess they were there as I drove around and I just didn't see them. Subtle and discreet are good selling points, but invisible isn't.

Super Sonic

4,911 posts

55 months

Saturday 20th January
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Hope you get over your insomnia.

DickyC

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Saturday 20th January
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Super Sonic said:
Hope you get over your insomnia.
Other way round.

I've been asleep so long Mercedes were able to completely change course without me noticing.

The analogy will fail if we proceed with it any further.

hehe

SmithCorona

616 posts

30 months

Saturday 20th January
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I don't know if any of you have been to MB World Stuttgart - their museum.

It is phenomenal, a spiral building - starting at the top with the earliest cars. As you work down the spiral you go through the whole history of MB - highlights are obviously the 50's/60's designs, and the silver and grey 80's V8s - and then you get the the end: the modern day.

Its the closest representation on earth of a descent into hell.

Jon39

12,842 posts

144 months

Saturday 20th January
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DickyC said:
Thanks for that, Jon.

Underlining this was the car existing at all and me not noticing. Even though I'm retired now I'm still interested in cars and still drive quite a lot. I guess they were there as I drove around and I just didn't see them. Subtle and discreet are good selling points, but invisible isn't.

I have never noticed an EQS on the road (if I did, I would probably look away), only at dealers.

Interesting to look at the M-B used list.
The EQS has a new list price of £105,000 to £120,000.
2 years old and a few thousand miles, retail price £60,000.
Just imagine what trade-in might be. "We don't want it", probably.
Of the 33 cars advertised, 22 are stated as Ex-demonstrator.
I think we can sense what is going on.


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Compare all that with a similar age, Ex-demonstrator S-Class.
New from £94,000.




drewbar

6 posts

165 months

Tuesday 23rd January
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Its jelly mould styling isn't the most appealing but is very functional in creating the super low drag coefficient that the EQS is hardly regarded for.

The interiors are a fantastic place to sit and its lovely car to live with if you like big wafty motors!