Frozen door seals
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Skyedriver

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23,409 posts

311 months

Thursday 18th January 2024
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Something I've not really experienced in 50+ years....
Attempt to pull open doors (not locked) slight movement on the rubber seals but frozen solid. Freed the drivers side with warm water along the aperture and eventually got in. Started engine, left running popped into house, gets back, door seized again, more warm water. Jumped into car and tried setting the heater, would you believe I'm trapped as the door has frozen shut again! Required repeated shoulder charges to escape.
Any suggestions for something to rub on the door seals to stop them freezing? All 4 doors are the same problem.
Thanks

Evanivitch

26,380 posts

151 months

Thursday 18th January 2024
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Silicone spray.

Red9zero

11,209 posts

86 months

Thursday 18th January 2024
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Vaseline.

Slowboathome

4,461 posts

73 months

Thursday 18th January 2024
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They'll often respond to a fish, I believe.

QuickQuack

2,815 posts

130 months

Thursday 18th January 2024
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Red9zero said:
Vaseline.
yikes Not Vaseline! Vaseline is a petrol derivative and will destroy rubber, door seals or not.

Jayho

2,413 posts

199 months

Thursday 18th January 2024
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I just ordered some Liqui Moly Gummi-pflege to put onto my rubber seals at the top. I've got a frameless window, so extra difficult. I used previously in another car and it worked fine too.

QuickQuack

2,815 posts

130 months

Thursday 18th January 2024
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Skyedriver said:
Something I've not really experienced in 50+ years....
Attempt to pull open doors (not locked) slight movement on the rubber seals but frozen solid. Freed the drivers side with warm water along the aperture and eventually got in. Started engine, left running popped into house, gets back, door seized again, more warm water. Jumped into car and tried setting the heater, would you believe I'm trapped as the door has frozen shut again! Required repeated shoulder charges to escape.
Any suggestions for something to rub on the door seals to stop them freezing? All 4 doors are the same problem.
Thanks
Unlike a windscreen, don't use water to release door seals. With a windscreen, the wipers remove the excess water and you're immediately left with a dry and clean surface. With the door seals, unless you fully dry them, you now have water sitting next to big chunks of metal, the doors and the car frame which fully enclose the water and the seals. When you close the door, the low temperature of this frozen metal cage will act like a freezer and pretty much immediately lower the temperature of the water you've used to release the seals to freeze the seals together again.

Either use just brute force if you haven't done anything else, or if you use water to release, make sure you dry the seals, or alternatively leave the door open for a while so that the seals are away from each other while they refreeze in the blistering cold and not stuck together.

I don't know if the silicon sprays work, I haven't tried them before. I've relied on simple brute force until now.

Krikkit

27,938 posts

210 months

Thursday 18th January 2024
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Jayho said:
I just ordered some Liqui Moly Gummi-pflege to put onto my rubber seals at the top. I've got a frameless window, so extra difficult. I used previously in another car and it worked fine too.
Gummi-pflege is the king, excellent stuff.

Kenny68

402 posts

174 months

Thursday 18th January 2024
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I had a similar experience with my Combo van recently, but it was the sliding side door that wouldn't open.

The door unlocked but wouldn't slide. But there was nowhere available to put a shoulder to!

In the end I opened the passenger door and put my foot to the edger of the slider. A few gentle rocks back and forth and it finally opened.

I then drove to the petrol station only to find that the fuel filler cap was also frozen shut! A kettle of hot water solved that issue!

PlywoodPascal

5,974 posts

50 months

Thursday 18th January 2024
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Small cordless hairdryer works well

IanJ9375

1,638 posts

245 months

Thursday 18th January 2024
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QuickQuack said:
yikes Not Vaseline! Vaseline is a petrol derivative and will destroy rubber, door seals or not.
He was wondering how despite protection the kids kept coming lol

Red9zero

11,209 posts

86 months

Thursday 18th January 2024
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QuickQuack said:
Red9zero said:
Vaseline.
yikes Not Vaseline! Vaseline is a petrol derivative and will destroy rubber, door seals or not.
I used it for years when I worked on top of a hill and the doors would freeze every winter. Never had an issue with my rubbers, car or otherwise laugh

JakeT

5,997 posts

149 months

Thursday 18th January 2024
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Silicone spray. Spray on a paper towel and work onto the seals. Won’t freeze shut then and safe for rubber.

Evercross

6,883 posts

93 months

Thursday 18th January 2024
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+1 for silicone spray. Essential when I had my Alfa GT

mikeiow

8,157 posts

159 months

Thursday 18th January 2024
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Jayho said:
I just ordered some Liqui Moly Gummi-pflege to put onto my rubber seals at the top. I've got a frameless window, so extra difficult. I used previously in another car and it worked fine too.
I was only saying to MrsMikeIOW how I was going to use that stuff again on my doors. Bought it years ago.
Not sure it entirely solves the issue, but certainly should help!

Every day a journey

3,145 posts

67 months

Thursday 18th January 2024
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Had to pee on mine once.

Had left the car at the pub, country pub in middle of nowhere, was acold walk home (one pint turned into four).

6am the next morning and the temp had plummeted to -15 overnight. doors well and trruly frozen shut. Pee'd on it then washed off with the bottle of water I had.

Crude but effective

PlywoodPascal

5,974 posts

50 months

Thursday 18th January 2024
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Evercross said:
+1 for silicone spray. Essential when I had my Alfa GT
but what did you do to stop the door seals sticking?

Dog Star

17,598 posts

197 months

Thursday 18th January 2024
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Jayho said:
I just ordered some Liqui Moly Gummi-pflege to put onto my rubber seals at the top. I've got a frameless window, so extra difficult. I used previously in another car and it worked fine too.
This. Mrs DS and I have had SLKs and SLs for the last 18 years now and I religiously use this stuff on all the myriad rubber seals on the folding roof mechanisms - Sonax in my case.

Also use it on door seals.

Evercross

6,883 posts

93 months

Thursday 18th January 2024
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PlywoodPascal said:
Evercross said:
+1 for silicone spray. Essential when I had my Alfa GT
but what did you do to stop the door seals sticking?
Ha, very good! smile

GT had frameless doors with glass that popped up into a seal on the roofline when closed, and the windows would drop slightly automatically when you touched the door handle so that you could get the door open. Occasional spraying of the silicone liquid along the bottom edge of the window and into the rubber seal at the top made sure the operation of the window drop worked every time regardless of temperature (as ice does not adhere to the silicone coated surface).

428 days later

621 posts

92 months

Thursday 18th January 2024
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I had kind of the opposite problem in my old BMW, could open it easily enough, but once the door handle was opened it stuck in its open position so closing the door wouldn’t sit shut and it just flopped about, so I had to pull it closed as tight I could and then put the door lock manually down hehe after about 10 minutes the door seemed to warm up and it would shut properly.. but had happened a few times.