Police Target Middle Lane Hoggers
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Not before time imo. Doubt it’ll make much difference though.
Essex Police target drivers who 'hog' the middle lane https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-680280...
Essex Police target drivers who 'hog' the middle lane https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-680280...
E-bmw said:
This has been "allegedly" targeted for the last 2 years & there has been no difference in the frequency that I have seen it in that time.
Yep.The Police need to do more than flash headlights and wag fingers. Even in that article the MLM are just moving back to the middle lane without any follow up ffs.
HTP99 said:
I can kind of understand the ones who pull out to overtake and then stay there, it's the ones that enter a motorway from a slip road with a clear L1 who aim for L2 and then sit there that totally baffle me.
And then there is this: :-) (quoted from the article/cops)""For those who reacted to a headlight flash reminder and moved over it was left at that," Essex Police said on social media.
"However some then moved straight back out again after we passed in our marked car," it added."
hahaha - there are thepeople you describe! :-)
Griffith4ever said:
HTP99 said:
I can kind of understand the ones who pull out to overtake and then stay there, it's the ones that enter a motorway from a slip road with a clear L1 who aim for L2 and then sit there that totally baffle me.
And then there is this: :-) (quoted from the article/cops)""For those who reacted to a headlight flash reminder and moved over it was left at that," Essex Police said on social media.
"However some then moved straight back out again after we passed in our marked car," it added."
hahaha - there are thepeople you describe! :-)
Back when I was young and stupid I did once undertake a car on the city bypass that was holding up a huge queue by hogging the second, outer lane. I was on the bike so managed to knock loudly on the passenger side window. Silly and risky I know, but the look on the drivers face was priceless.
Steve_H80 said:
Back when I was young and stupid I did once undertake a car on the city bypass that was holding up a huge queue by hogging the second, outer lane. I was on the bike so managed to knock loudly on the passenger side window. Silly and risky I know, but the look on the drivers face was priceless.
No such thing as ‘undertaking’, in motoring terms. It is ‘passing on the near side’, which in itself is not illegal.Simpo Two said:
Griffith4ever said:
HTP99 said:
I can kind of understand the ones who pull out to overtake and then stay there, it's the ones that enter a motorway from a slip road with a clear L1 who aim for L2 and then sit there that totally baffle me.
And then there is this: :-) (quoted from the article/cops)""For those who reacted to a headlight flash reminder and moved over it was left at that," Essex Police said on social media.
"However some then moved straight back out again after we passed in our marked car," it added."
hahaha - there are thepeople you describe! :-)
It's joining the dots between the police alerting them this way which isn't going to work.
The issue I do not understand is.
Why do people do it? Is it laziness, education, do they not see the issue they cause?
It has always been a certain issue but has gotten far worse since 4 lane motorways, do these morons really think lane 1 is a crawler lane or some kind of half arsed 3 mile slip road for the next junction, some of them even sit in lane 3 with people over and undertaking, they are flashed all the time yet do nothing.
I will also add that on many occasions the driver is perhaps not British or does not seem to be, I know this is controversial but is this a driving licence issue, an education issue?
What is the situation if you come here from Africa or Asia, can you still drive on your licence from there? If this is the case this is maybe not their fault, eventually they might realise but if driving in any lane is normal in say India or Bangladesh or Nigeria why would you know to do anything else!
I hope this is OK to say but it is very common and it might simply be an education issue for people from overseas. |though obviously plenty of UK drivers do the same.
Why do people do it? Is it laziness, education, do they not see the issue they cause?
It has always been a certain issue but has gotten far worse since 4 lane motorways, do these morons really think lane 1 is a crawler lane or some kind of half arsed 3 mile slip road for the next junction, some of them even sit in lane 3 with people over and undertaking, they are flashed all the time yet do nothing.
I will also add that on many occasions the driver is perhaps not British or does not seem to be, I know this is controversial but is this a driving licence issue, an education issue?
What is the situation if you come here from Africa or Asia, can you still drive on your licence from there? If this is the case this is maybe not their fault, eventually they might realise but if driving in any lane is normal in say India or Bangladesh or Nigeria why would you know to do anything else!
I hope this is OK to say but it is very common and it might simply be an education issue for people from overseas. |though obviously plenty of UK drivers do the same.
E-bmw said:
This has been "allegedly" targeted for the last 2 years & there has been no difference in the frequency that I have seen it in that time.
Probably worse. Straight onto middle lane, 65mph, enter coma, turn off, without looking, at the last possible moment. And that's just the police.flatlandsman said:
The issue I do not understand is.
Why do people do it? Is it laziness, education, do they not see the issue they cause?
I honestly think alot of it is the "slow" and "fast" lane mentality, don't want to go slow with the lorries and slow people don't want to go in the fast lane with the reckless speeders, so sit somewhere in the middle.Why do people do it? Is it laziness, education, do they not see the issue they cause?
HTP99 said:
flatlandsman said:
The issue I do not understand is.
Why do people do it? Is it laziness, education, do they not see the issue they cause?
I honestly think alot of it is the "slow" and "fast" lane mentality, don't want to go slow with the lorries and slow people don't want to go in the fast lane with the reckless speeders, so sit somewhere in the middle.Why do people do it? Is it laziness, education, do they not see the issue they cause?
I drive trucks mostly late evening and the amount of people I see especially on the M6 on the 4 lane sections will come down the slip road and cut directly across to lane 3 and just sit there on a completely empty motorway.
Not to mention the roadworks where people just sit side by side in lane 1 and 2 doing 38mph holding the whole motorway up as people seem terrified to move to the empty lane 3 and use that. Mass queues behind, empty motorway ahead of them. Get these people off the road and I bet congestion would reduce greatly.
Probably the same types that start moving 10 seconds after the lights have gone green so now only 3 people get through instead of 10.
Not to mention the roadworks where people just sit side by side in lane 1 and 2 doing 38mph holding the whole motorway up as people seem terrified to move to the empty lane 3 and use that. Mass queues behind, empty motorway ahead of them. Get these people off the road and I bet congestion would reduce greatly.
Probably the same types that start moving 10 seconds after the lights have gone green so now only 3 people get through instead of 10.
Honestly, it's really simple. There are a gizillion threads discussing this but, it boils down to this:
Motorways are far busier now than 20 years ago.
Using all 3 lanes required "effort" of pulling in, and pulling back out.
A lot of people are lazy and have opted for the easiest route - sit in L2 and stay in it.
They don't care. They don't care what we think.
Drive by the inside.
Motorways are far busier now than 20 years ago.
Using all 3 lanes required "effort" of pulling in, and pulling back out.
A lot of people are lazy and have opted for the easiest route - sit in L2 and stay in it.
They don't care. They don't care what we think.
Drive by the inside.
Pica-Pica said:
No such thing as ‘undertaking’, in motoring terms. It is ‘passing on the near side’, which in itself is not illegal.
Does anyone know the law?Is it illegal to pass a vehicle on it's left side (where it is safe to do so)?
Or does the law state you MUST go from lane 1 to lane 3, overtake, then move back to lane 1?
A link to source would be appreciated.
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