Employment tribunal decides gender critical views legitimate

[Rufus Stone]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13065275/...

Going to cost the Green Party £9,100 too.

[simon_harris]

Good!

The ability to have a different opinion is essential to any functioning society.

[Master Of Puppets]

I'll just leave this here.

Anyone going to tell me he's wrong?
https://twitter.com/_HenryBolton/status/1449027367...

[Alex Z]

Master Of Puppets said:

I'll just leave this here.

Anyone going to tell me he's wrong?
https://twitter.com/_HenryBolton/status/1449027367...

It's ignoring the difference between Sex and Gender.

[PlywoodPascal]

Alex Z said:

Master Of Puppets said:

I'll just leave this here.

Anyone going to tell me he's wrong?
https://twitter.com/_HenryBolton/status/1449027367...

It's ignoring the difference between Sex and Gender.

I don't think it's ignoring it, I think it's delineating it.

[Yertis]

Alex Z said:

Master Of Puppets said:

I'll just leave this here.

Anyone going to tell me he's wrong?
https://twitter.com/_HenryBolton/status/1449027367...

It's ignoring the difference between Sex and Gender.

Here we go again...

[TGCOTF-dewey]

Yertis said:

Here we go again...

Is that a singular or plural we?

[simon_harris]

that isn't what this judgement is about, this judgement is about the ability to hold a different opinion and not be excluded for it.

[Rufus Stone]

simon_harris said:

that isn't what this judgement is about, this judgement is about the ability to hold a different opinion and not be excluded for it.

I guess you could say that about religion too.

[anonymous-user]

A bit of woke on woke self destruction.

[Gogoplata]

Bloody Green Party and their culture wars.

[Lotobear]

Premier League; take note

[C5_Steve]

simon_harris said:

Good!

The ability to have a different opinion is essential to any functioning society.

Of course, but it's important to note that they upheld the party's right to dismiss spokespeople whose views differ from party policy. It was how they did it, not that they did it. It was a procedural issue.

[Murph7355]

C5_Steve said:

Of course, but it's important to note that they upheld the party's right to dismiss spokespeople whose views differ from party policy. It was how they did it, not that they did it. It was a procedural issue.

Which is also fair enough.

I've never really understood why people want to be part of clubs whose key fundamental "rules" /"policies" , they don't agree with.

[BikeBikeBIke]

simon_harris said:

The ability to have a different opinion is essential to any functioning society.

No it isn't!

[chrispmartha]

Master Of Puppets said:

I'll just leave this here.

Anyone going to tell me he's wrong?
https://twitter.com/_HenryBolton/status/1449027367...

Well technically, he is wrong, in a legal sense.

[chrispmartha]

Interesting that he was awarded £9,100 for ‘injury to feelings’

Thought many on here were against that sort of thing?

Also as with most of these cases all his other claims were dismissed, not sure it’s the ‘win’ it’s being claimed as by the daily mail (there’s a shock)

He crowd funded £80k by the way, as slways the lawyers were the winners

[Countdown]

Murph7355 said:

C5_Steve said:

Of course, but it's important to note that they upheld the party's right to dismiss spokespeople whose views differ from party policy. It was how they did it, not that they did it. It was a procedural issue.

Which is also fair enough.

I've never really understood why people want to be part of clubs whose key fundamental "rules" /"policies" , they don't agree with.

That reminds me of the time when the BNP's membership policy was foiund to be "racist"

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2010/mar/12/b...

[QJumper]

Alex Z said:

It's ignoring the difference between Sex and Gender.

As I understand it though, sex is a biological reality, but gender is now claimed to be a social construct. I don't believe that the latter is true though, as it would seem more accurate to say that gender roles, or learned behahiours, are a social construct.

The difficulty seems to arise when people differ on whether the terms "man" or "woman" refer to one's sexual or gender identity. Most people recognise it in the former sense. In that regard, I don't understand why a man, who doesn't conform to the socially constructed identity of a man, nor the biological identity of woman, can 't simply be a non conformist man, and not a woman. By that I mean that whilst he/she may differ psychologically to other men, he/she just as equally differs bioligically to other women.

I'm not trying to be difficult on this issue, and genuinely don't understand how, why, and what point psychological belief trumps biological reality.

[popegregory]

BikeBikeBIke said:

simon_harris said:

The ability to have a different opinion is essential to any functioning society.

No it isn't!

Are you ten minutes or the full half hour?