Man dobs himself in for drink driving
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"Driver calls 999 to report himself for drink-driving"
"A man has astonished police by calling 999 to report himself for drink-driving.
North Yorkshire Police said the call came in just before noon on Monday from a man who said he was "drink-driving and doesn't know what he is doing".
The driver, who is in his 50s, told the call handler he was in Knaresborough and had had "a heavy weekend".
Officers said he was three times over the drink-drive limit when he was located 15 minutes later.
He was arrested on suspicion of drink-driving and remained in custody, a force spokesperson added."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-y...
"A man has astonished police by calling 999 to report himself for drink-driving.
North Yorkshire Police said the call came in just before noon on Monday from a man who said he was "drink-driving and doesn't know what he is doing".
The driver, who is in his 50s, told the call handler he was in Knaresborough and had had "a heavy weekend".
Officers said he was three times over the drink-drive limit when he was located 15 minutes later.
He was arrested on suspicion of drink-driving and remained in custody, a force spokesperson added."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-y...
That's an interesting one.
At first I thought it meant he'd come to his senses, stopped and given himself up, but then it also reads as if he was so pissed he actually had to stop?
Minor one, but always grates when they say "3 times over the limit" when he's over the limit by twice the limit. Pedantic maybe...
At first I thought it meant he'd come to his senses, stopped and given himself up, but then it also reads as if he was so pissed he actually had to stop?
Minor one, but always grates when they say "3 times over the limit" when he's over the limit by twice the limit. Pedantic maybe...
PorkInsider said:
Minor one, but always grates when they say "3 times over the limit" when he's over the limit by twice the limit. Pedantic maybe...
O/T but I disagree. He's not "over the limit by twice the limit" as that would be [limit+(2 x limit)], and it's also a bit clumsy wording. "He's twice over the limit" is simply a contracted version of alcohol level in his breath/blood/urine sample was twice the limit." I think that saying he/she is X number of times over the limit get the meaning across correctly, accurately and clearly. QuickQuack said:
PorkInsider said:
Minor one, but always grates when they say "3 times over the limit" when he's over the limit by twice the limit. Pedantic maybe...
O/T but I disagree. He's not "over the limit by twice the limit" as that would be [limit+(2 x limit)], and it's also a bit clumsy wording. "He's twice over the limit" is simply a contracted version of alcohol level in his breath/blood/urine sample was twice the limit." I think that saying he/she is X number of times over the limit get the meaning across correctly, accurately and clearly. It’s an interesting semantics argument..
“Three times over the limit” to me read plainly means 3x the limit. “Over the limit by a multiple of 2” or “Over by 2 times the limit” etc are hard to parse.
It’s wrong in explicit terms but the natural reading of “three times over the limit” is that a) there is a limit of Z and b) the driver had a reading of 3 x Z.
I’m on Team QuickQuack.
“Three times over the limit” to me read plainly means 3x the limit. “Over the limit by a multiple of 2” or “Over by 2 times the limit” etc are hard to parse.
It’s wrong in explicit terms but the natural reading of “three times over the limit” is that a) there is a limit of Z and b) the driver had a reading of 3 x Z.
I’m on Team QuickQuack.
QuickQuack said:
PorkInsider said:
Minor one, but always grates when they say "3 times over the limit" when he's over the limit by twice the limit. Pedantic maybe...
O/T but I disagree. He's not "over the limit by twice the limit" as that would be [limit+(2 x limit)] Assuming the 118 reading shown in the pics in the article is correct, that's what he was recorded as: [limit+(2 x limit)] Which would be 105
Another multiple of the limit would be 140 so he wasn't at that.
Bill said:
Presumably he's a regular drink driver who had a sudden flash of conscience. Hopefully he gets the help he needs while he's off the road
We can but hope...And going OT yet again... thinking about persistent offenders like this brings to mind another foible of the whole drink-drive alcohol level limit argument: someone who's persistently drink-driving is not going to be deterred by reducing the limit since they're already driving around at multiple times the current level anyway.
It seems no better than trying to stop the recent knife crime epidemic by reducing the permitted blade length limit for carrying a knife in public from 3" to 2.5"
Difficulty here maybe being that if the driver sobers up overnight in the cells, and after a chat with his lawyer in the morning then changes his story, as they couldn't 'take a statement whilst he was intoxicated.
Unless he was caught red-handed slumped over the wheel with keys still in the ignition maybe not such a easy one to prove he was actually driving at time of 'alleged' offence?
Bill said:
Presumably he's a regular drink driver who had a sudden flash of conscience. Hopefully he gets the help he needs while he's off the road
I doubt that very much indeed. Sounds like someone doesn't drink much, got pissed beyond what he's used to, got in the car, drove a bit, badly, then panicked and came over all, well, what can you say? pathetic?Griffith4ever said:
I doubt that very much indeed. Sounds like someone doesn't drink much, got pissed beyond what he's used to, got in the car, drove a bit, badly, then panicked and came over all, well, what can you say? pathetic?
He called the Police after mid day on Monday, saying he had a heavy weekendSuggests he was absolutely on it for the duration, and then on Monday, maybe on the way home realised he was still plastered
Calling it in himself is a strange one though
Why not just park up and get the bus or cab home? Not excusing his driving in the first place, but its an odd thing to do
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