Worst vehicle insurance scam against you
Worst vehicle insurance scam against you
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HoHoHo

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15,366 posts

272 months

Wednesday 14th February 2024
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I had the misfortune to be hit by a driver on a roundabout in Reading Monday morning.

Regardless of who is right or wrong (I didn't move from my lane, he went into me so it would appear he made a mistake), he lightly brushed my car and caused a few minor insignificant scratches. I went to a friend who owns a bodyshop the very next morning and by the time I had turned around they were gone, I use the word again, insignificant.

He however is now claiming the following:

Damage to his wing (above the bumper)
Damage to his bumper
Significant damage to his wheel
A bent steering column

Look at the two cars, I think he might be stretching the truth ever so slightly, just a tiny bit!

I have been called by a claims company who are going for the throat and I in turn have called my broker and left him to deal with it. I have also called the insurance fraud line and hope they get involved.





I have made his claims company aware I have date stamped photos etc and he's taking the pi..... nothing more I can do unfortunately.

What other clear scams have you been victim of?

CLK-GTR

1,655 posts

267 months

Wednesday 14th February 2024
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Looking at the two cars i suspect he thinks he can get a few quid out of you for nothing. I'd think your insurer will tell them to do one (and put your renewal up as though they didnt).

Dog Star

17,242 posts

190 months

Wednesday 14th February 2024
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I’ve known of quite a lot involving friends. Worst was my sister bumped a taxi driver - it cracked his reg plate (there’s a chance it was already cracked). My dad was a passenger and took loads of pics.

Taxi driver was claiming bumper, wings, lights - you name it, plus the injuries meaning that he couldn’t help his wife with chores or go on his Hajj.

Insurance paid him out despite having all the pictures.

I could go on an on with similar examples - it’s depressing. There is, however, one common factor in every one of them.

merge

239 posts

232 months

Wednesday 14th February 2024
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I suspect his non factory wheels (assuming your not driving the van), might throw up modifications, no pay out!
Good luck and well done trying to stop another cretin making a false claim.

ScoobyChris

2,266 posts

224 months

Wednesday 14th February 2024
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Currently have a claim open against my policy from a pedestrian who we did not even make contact with who is claiming for injuries consistent with being run over at 40+ mph as well as the inevitable pyschological trauma. Solicitors are on the case and are confident we will win, but it's a painful process when people just no-win no-fee the system for what they perceive as easy $$$$.

Chris

Bill

56,953 posts

277 months

Wednesday 14th February 2024
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I had someone who pulled out into the side of my car magic a witness up and turn it 50:50.

HoHoHo

Original Poster:

15,366 posts

272 months

Wednesday 14th February 2024
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merge said:
I suspect his non factory wheels (assuming your not driving the van), might throw up modifications, no pay out!
Good luck and well done trying to stop another cretin making a false claim.
My car is the black Taycan, his is the 17 year old Caddy!

HoHoHo

Original Poster:

15,366 posts

272 months

Wednesday 14th February 2024
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Bill said:
I had someone who pulled out into the side of my car magic a witness up and turn it 50:50.
I suspect (have been told by my broker) this is the likely outcome.

I have reported him to the insurance fraud team and the local police informing them of his intention to commit fraud.

Art Keller

857 posts

101 months

Wednesday 14th February 2024
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The worst insurance scam against me was an actual insurance company...........helped by a useless insurance ombudsman

anonymous-user

76 months

Wednesday 14th February 2024
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My sister's husband was getting a taxi from a night out back to the naval base he was staying at. The taxi driver did the usual tactic of taking the long way round so my sister's husband had an arguement with the driver and asked to be let out where he was. The driver demanded he paid for the whole fair to which he refused. The driver got out the car and "forgot" to put the handbrake on so the taxi rolled into another vehicle. Driver called the police and said passenger had let the handbrake off. So sister's other half got arrested and spent the night in the cells. His boss came to visit him and told him he would end losing his job of this went further. Police investigated the incident at some great depth and it turned out the taxi driver had a load of previous for doing it!

HoHoHo

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15,366 posts

272 months

Wednesday 14th February 2024
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Art Keller said:
The worst insurance scam against me was an actual insurance company...........helped by a useless insurance ombudsman
More details please!

HoHoHo

Original Poster:

15,366 posts

272 months

Wednesday 14th February 2024
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pocketspring said:
My sister's husband was getting a taxi from a night out back to the naval base he was staying at. The taxi driver did the usual tactic of taking the long way round so my sister's husband had an arguement with the driver and asked to be let out where he was. The driver demanded he paid for the whole fair to which he refused. The driver got out the car and "forgot" to put the handbrake on so the taxi rolled into another vehicle. Driver called the police and said passenger had let the handbrake off. So sister's other half got arrested and spent the night in the cells. His boss came to visit him and told him he would end losing his job of this went further. Police investigated the incident at some great depth and it turned out the taxi driver had a load of previous for doing it!
Sounds like the typical Egyptian scam (along with the can you change this $100 to local money where he throws the money at you and only actually gives you $80 and then claims he gave you $100)

anonymous-user

76 months

Wednesday 14th February 2024
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HoHoHo said:
pocketspring said:
My sister's husband was getting a taxi from a night out back to the naval base he was staying at. The taxi driver did the usual tactic of taking the long way round so my sister's husband had an arguement with the driver and asked to be let out where he was. The driver demanded he paid for the whole fair to which he refused. The driver got out the car and "forgot" to put the handbrake on so the taxi rolled into another vehicle. Driver called the police and said passenger had let the handbrake off. So sister's other half got arrested and spent the night in the cells. His boss came to visit him and told him he would end losing his job of this went further. Police investigated the incident at some great depth and it turned out the taxi driver had a load of previous for doing it!
Sounds like the typical Egyptian scam (along with the can you change this $100 to local money where he throws the money at you and only actually gives you $80 and then claims he gave you $100)
The driver wasn't indigenous to England.

STe_rsv4

1,106 posts

120 months

Wednesday 14th February 2024
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pocketspring said:
My sister's husband was getting a taxi from a night out back to the naval base he was staying at. The taxi driver did the usual tactic of taking the long way round so my sister's husband had an arguement with the driver and asked to be let out where he was. The driver demanded he paid for the whole fair to which he refused. The driver got out the car and "forgot" to put the handbrake on so the taxi rolled into another vehicle. Driver called the police and said passenger had let the handbrake off. So sister's other half got arrested and spent the night in the cells. His boss came to visit him and told him he would end losing his job of this went further. Police investigated the incident at some great depth and it turned out the taxi driver had a load of previous for doing it!
His boss sounds like a real stand up kind of guy, has him employees backs etc. rolleyes

martinbiz

3,624 posts

167 months

Wednesday 14th February 2024
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ScoobyChris said:
Currently have a claim open against my policy from a pedestrian who we did not even make contact with who is claiming for injuries consistent with being run over at 40+ mph as well as the inevitable pyschological trauma. Solicitors are on the case and are confident we will win, but it's a painful process when people just no-win no-fee the system for what they perceive as easy $$$$.

Chris
The problem is while the claims industry is allowed to operate the way it does the ins co's are stuck between a rock and a hard place, it's just not worth the time and money defending small, even obviously fraudulent claims, cheaper to say here's 5 grand now bu**er off. If the system was to shift even a small amount of jeopardy onto the claimant 90% of them would vanish overnight and we would all be insuring our cars for £50 a year whistle

martinbiz

3,624 posts

167 months

Wednesday 14th February 2024
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merge said:
I suspect his non factory wheels (assuming your not driving the van), might throw up modifications, no pay out!
Good luck and well done trying to stop another cretin making a false claim.
And if they are modded? Why will this affect making a claim against a 3rd party's ins co?

untakenname

5,244 posts

214 months

Wednesday 14th February 2024
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Years back a car clipped a neighbours (the car was parked with the wheel at an angle) and then rolled, the neighbors car had no damage apart from a flat tyre but the other car was written off, the neighbor moved his car onto the drive and then denied there was ever any contact.


HoHoHo said:
He however is now claiming the following:

Damage to his wing (above the bumper)
Damage to his bumper
Significant damage to his wheel
A bent steering column



Tbh zooming in on the bigger pic on thumbsnap that doesn't seem outrageous to claim that, were the wheels on the other side straight?
Likely will need a new bumper, wing and wheel, the steering column will probably just be a bent track rod as they are usually the weak point but to the laymay it will feel like the steering column is bust.

HoHoHo

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15,366 posts

272 months

Wednesday 14th February 2024
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untakenname said:
Years back a car clipped a neighbours (the car was parked with the wheel at an angle) and then rolled, the neighbors car had no damage apart from a flat tyre but the other car was written off, the neighbor moved his car onto the drive and then denied there was ever any contact.


HoHoHo said:
He however is now claiming the following:

Damage to his wing (above the bumper)
Damage to his bumper
Significant damage to his wheel
A bent steering column



Tbh zooming in on the bigger pic on thumbsnap that doesn't seem outrageous to claim that, were the wheels on the other side straight?
Likely will need a new bumper, wing and wheel, the steering column will probably just be a bent track rod as they are usually the weak point but to the laymay it will feel like the steering column is bust.
I don't have a picture of the other side so I can't confirm if that was straight.

What I can confirm is he's an auto technician.......

Can you explain how my car caused the rip in his wing please?

I have nothing pointy on my car, no paint from his on my car, no paint from mine on his car and the horizontal damage is behind the furthest point out of the wing, that would have also been damaged.

untakenname

5,244 posts

214 months

Wednesday 14th February 2024
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I assumed that was the damage caused by the crash, if it was pre-existing then yeah the guy is a dick who is trying it on.

HoHoHo

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15,366 posts

272 months

Wednesday 14th February 2024
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untakenname said:
I assumed that was the damage caused by the crash, if it was pre-existing then yeah the guy is a dick who is trying it on.
No, that's the point of this thread - have a look at my car (black Taycan , rear door, no damage) and he's claiming I damaged the wheel, bumper, wing and steering rack.

In order to damage the wing for example I would have needed to have something pointy sticking out of my car.

In order to damage the alloy......well, let's be honest there's more kerb rash than good wheel

In order to damage the bumper................WTF.........it's seen more action than Katie Price

In order to damage the steering column it would have been a decent coming together for sure!