Speed Six clutch options

Speed Six clutch options

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non_linear

Original Poster:

278 posts

84 months

Wednesday 28th February
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What is considered the best clutch to fit to a speed six engine these days? I am aware of the Motorclan offering, Powers do one and CG Motorsport too. I want a standard clutch, for road use.

thanks

Morinicorse

19 posts

42 months

Thursday 29th February
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To avoid on going problems with broken butterfly`s you should to switch on a ZF clutch.
As example ZF motor sport clutch 1155 NM.

non_linear

Original Poster:

278 posts

84 months

Thursday 29th February
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Hi Morinicorse

Another T350T owner I see. Do you have this fitted to your own car? What mods required? I'm not sure how suitable a motorsport clutch is for city/ road use.

I thought the clutch finger problem was more to do with the slave cylinder rubbing on the fingers and wearing them. I'm considering changing the slave to a Tilton.

Basil Brush

5,085 posts

264 months

Tuesday 5th March
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non_linear said:
Hi Morinicorse

Another T350T owner I see. Do you have this fitted to your own car? What mods required? I'm not sure how suitable a motorsport clutch is for city/ road use.

I thought the clutch finger problem was more to do with the slave cylinder rubbing on the fingers and wearing them. I'm considering changing the slave to a Tilton.
The butterflies and fingers are different parts of the clutch. The fingers breaking is at least partly down to setup and the slave travelling too far, overstressing the fingers on the diaghram. I also think the release bearing may be the wrong size, based on AP's technical drawings of the clutch type.

non_linear

Original Poster:

278 posts

84 months

Tuesday 5th March
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Thanks for the clarification. I've decided to go the Powers route, only decision now is whether to use a Raceproved slave or change to a Tilton system.

SS2.

14,465 posts

239 months

Tuesday 5th March
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I'm another who's had first hand experience of that, sadly.


non_linear

Original Poster:

278 posts

84 months

Tuesday 5th March
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Ouch. Did you establish what caused the failure?

I've read about it being a good idea to put a clutch pedal stop in place to prevent over travel. Something I will look at while the pedal box is out.

Classic Chim

12,424 posts

150 months

Tuesday 5th March
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Just an observation.
The edge of a few of the fingers are also thinning.
That’s usually a sign of a seized thrust bearing or pressure still being applied when clutch is fully up causing the bearing to spin on those fingers.
My Chim clutch fingers had all but disappeared and only 4 fingers were intact enough to get me down the motorway 125 miles before Peter of former Tvr fame replaced the clutch for me.
Mine was most likely caused from racing starts at a drag strip. Overheated the thrust bearing and siezed from intense heat and simply ground about 5 mm off all fingers until nothing was left other than about 1/2 mm on about 4 fingers.

In my case I overheated the clutch from to much abuse rather than the clutch being at fault so it’s an extreme case but just shows what can happen when one part fails or clutch isn’t set up well.









Edited by Classic Chim on Tuesday 5th March 18:30

SS2.

14,465 posts

239 months

Tuesday 5th March
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non_linear said:
Ouch. Did you establish what caused the failure?
No idea. The specialist suggested it might have been worsened by sitting in traffic for long periods with the clutch depressed - not by me, it should be said !

What I do know is that the clutch became an order of magnitude lighter once it was replaced, likewise the gear shifting.

SS2.

14,465 posts

239 months

Tuesday 5th March
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Classic Chim said:
Just an observation.
The edge of a few of the fingers are also thinning.
That’s usually a sign of a seized thrust bearing or pressure still being applied when clutch is fully up causing the bearing to spin on those fingers.
I've never been one for riding a clutch, nor sitting in traffic for long periods with the pedal depressed.

The previous clutch was inherited and I had no idea of its condition - it may well have been on its last legs anyway.

Now it's had a new one fitted, I'll be interested to see how it does over the [hopefully] years to come.

stuthemong

2,280 posts

218 months

Tuesday 5th March
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CG Did a cheap and fab job rebuilding mine - recommended!

non_linear

Original Poster:

278 posts

84 months

Sunday 10th March
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stuthe said:
CG Did a cheap and fab job rebuilding mine - recommended!
Unfortunately I don't have an old one to rebuild. Engine came with an unused but approx 10 year old Helix clutch, which I decided not to use, so starting with a clean slate.

non_linear

Original Poster:

278 posts

84 months

Sunday 10th March
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SS2. said:
Now it's had a new one fitted, I'll be interested to see how it does over the [hopefully] years to come.
Which clutch did you go for?

SS2.

14,465 posts

239 months

Sunday 10th March
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non_linear said:
SS2. said:
Now it's had a new one fitted, I'll be interested to see how it does over the [hopefully] years to come.
Which clutch did you go for?
Couldn't say for certain - I left it in Woody's capable hands (TVR101)..