RE: KW launches V3 coilovers for latest Civic Type R
RE: KW launches V3 coilovers for latest Civic Type R
Wednesday 28th February 2024

KW launches V3 coilovers for latest Civic Type R

Really, really serious about tracking an FL5 Type R? You'll be wanting KW's latest


There won’t be many people who drive the current Honda Civic Type R - either on the road or on a circuit - and be left wanting more. It’s an obscenely capable car, redefining (again) what can be expected by a roadgoing, front-drive hot hatch. But the best can always be made better for those that really must, and so KW has a coilover kit for the FL5. 

Designed for use with semi-slick tyres (so something a little more aggressive than the standard Michelin Pilot Sport 4S), the KW V3 Clubsport setup ‘surpasses’ the coilovers available for the old Type R. Said to be much closer to KW’s motorsport suspension than ever before, the Civic upgrade uses ‘upside-down’ KW Single Tube racing dampers (they’re rotated 180 degrees) with 16 clicks of low-speed compression and rebound adjustment. There’s no high-speed tinkering possible. Modifications to the damper valve springs and coil springs should make the V3 setup stiffer than KW’s Street Performance offerings. It also permits 10-30mm of ride height reduction, for an even meaner stance and, presumably, even keener cornering. 

KW’s Brand Manager Florian Johann said: "With our Street Performance applications, such as the KW V3 coilover suspension, we always aim for a setup as firm as necessary while maintaining maximum comfort. Our focus is ensuring that the Honda Civic Type R remains safe and manageable, even when pushed to its limits on dynamic tracks like the Nurburgring Nordschleife."

That perhaps the most famous circuit of all is mentioned by KW indicates what it sees as this car’s intended use; for even fairly regular track day appearances, a standard car will surely be fine. The V3 Clubsport is there for folk who make regular pilgrimages to the Green Hell, and want one of the fastest front-wheel drive cars there. The wheels seen here are BBS CI-R Unlimiteds on the same size Michelin as standard - 265/30 R19. They certainly look smart, though to make the best of the suspension it’d surely be tyres that are upgraded first. Not least because the V3 package will cost a pretty penny - it’s listed at £4,721 plus shipping on the UK site. Still, with early cars now getting closer to £40k, a budget of £50k doesn’t seem daft. And the promise of a car that further improves on one of the hot hatch heroes isn’t half tempting. 


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fantheman80

Original Poster:

2,614 posts

78 months

Thursday 29th February 2024
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Going via eurostar to the ring clearly, hence the naff alloy protectors

Interesting as an Fk8 owner, FL5 sales have slowed massively. Many dealers have access to cars for quicker delivery, in the colour you want, and there are brand new ones with a discount on AT. Second hands ones are not shifting either.

Yes all things are getting expensive, doesn't mean people are paying up

WPA

14,686 posts

143 months

Thursday 29th February 2024
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£4700 for a set of coilovers is crazy.

Jon_S_Rally

4,455 posts

117 months

Thursday 29th February 2024
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WPA said:
£4700 for a set of coilovers is crazy.
Not once you get into proper good quality stuff.

C5_Steve

8,912 posts

132 months

Thursday 29th February 2024
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WPA said:
£4700 for a set of coilovers is crazy.
It does get spendy when you start getting into the very decent stuff but I don't think it's unrealistic for what you're getting.

I don't think I've seen one of these models of Type R on the road, which is a shame because it's such a good-looking car. Especially the black one with silver wheels as pictured (rim protectors and all). Very understated and much more like the Type Rs of old.

EK9_CTR

731 posts

163 months

Thursday 29th February 2024
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Interesting to see how this compares to HKS Hipermax and Ohlins - both are much cheaper than KW.

Wab1974uk

1,395 posts

56 months

Thursday 29th February 2024
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Have to say, it looks pretty good.

CrippsCorner

3,379 posts

210 months

Thursday 29th February 2024
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Would usually have to be Championship White for a Type-R for me, but that looks bloody good in black, just don't get on with the spoiler. Is there alternatives available? Or maybe just remove it completely, but I don't know what the effect would be on the handling.

dpop

296 posts

161 months

Thursday 29th February 2024
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fantheman80 said:
Going via eurostar to the ring clearly, hence the naff alloy protectors

Interesting as an Fk8 owner, FL5 sales have slowed massively. Many dealers have access to cars for quicker delivery, in the colour you want, and there are brand new ones with a discount on AT. Second hands ones are not shifting either.

Yes all things are getting expensive, doesn't mean people are paying up
Indeed, lots of new cars on AT sitting in showrooms - and I wonder what is going to happen once the new GR Yaris arrives, presumably in the 40-45kish price range.. Hopefully these fall even further, as I for one would far rather one of these FL5's than the Yaris....

TK854GLT

12 posts

34 months

Thursday 29th February 2024
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EK9_CTR said:
Interesting to see how this compares to HKS Hipermax and Ohlins - both are much cheaper than KW.
You can't compare the HKS Hipermax and Ohlins.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYob-hYvwhY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smNWdkv2i7U

https://youtu.be/rA0vz_bLrwg?si=0tZTIDuikpdKndQh

Earl of Petrol

552 posts

151 months

Thursday 29th February 2024
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From what I’ve read the FL5 is such a good car I’d be leaving it alone. If is not broken etc…
Modders will disagree but that’s my take on it.

Earl of Petrol

552 posts

151 months

Thursday 29th February 2024
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fantheman80 said:
Going via eurostar to the ring clearly, hence the naff alloy protectors

Interesting as an Fk8 owner, FL5 sales have slowed massively. Many dealers have access to cars for quicker delivery, in the colour you want, and there are brand new ones with a discount on AT. Second hands ones are not shifting either.

Yes all things are getting expensive, doesn't mean people are paying up
Yep, won’t be long before there are FL5’s with a price starting with 3.

JAMSXR

1,845 posts

76 months

Thursday 29th February 2024
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Just watch out for the sticky steering.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/new-honda-civics-cr-...

Sold mine, but issues aside, it’s a phenomenal car, just not a good daily from my perspective.

gruppeb86

632 posts

42 months

Thursday 29th February 2024
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Earl of Petrol said:
From what I’ve read the FL5 is such a good car I’d be leaving it alone. If is not broken etc…
Modders will disagree but that’s my take on it.
Completely agree on all counts.

I would also purchase an FL5 in a heartbeat, but while very capable, are just too expensive. They're so capable, I note even F1 drivers use them (as witnessed on YT).

These cars new in the UK are over £40K list price. That means, in addition to tax, there's an additional hefty 3 figure sum payable theteafter 2yrs for 5yrs on the trot.

Have I understood the aforementioned incorrectly? If not, thats another good reason why these motors will not shift, certainly in the 2nd hand market.

Nobody is talking about his hefty fee which seems strange to me. Maybe I've got it all wrong!

fantheman80

Original Poster:

2,614 posts

78 months

Thursday 29th February 2024
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gruppeb86 said:
I would also purchase an FL5 in a heartbeat, but while very capable, are just too expensive. They're so capable, I note even F1 drivers use them (as witnessed on YT).

These cars new in the UK are over £40K list price. That means, in addition to tax, there's an additional hefty 3 figure sum payable theteafter 2yrs for 5yrs on the trot.

Have I understood the aforementioned incorrectly? If not, thats another good reason why these motors will not shift, certainly in the 2nd hand market.

Nobody is talking about his hefty fee which seems strange to me. Maybe I've got it all wrong!
Probably max, checo and the second red bull team whatever they are called these days as Honda give them as a bit of PR to get too and from tracks, they used to have fk8s.

But your right, £390 a year for 5 after year two. Maybe people spunking 50k (or 10k down and £600 a month) don’t mind…


911Spanker

3,660 posts

45 months

Thursday 29th February 2024
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JAMSXR said:
Just watch out for the sticky steering.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/new-honda-civics-cr-...

Sold mine, but issues aside, it’s a phenomenal car, just not a good daily from my perspective.
What was the depreciation like?

AKjr

653 posts

40 months

Thursday 29th February 2024
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Earl of Petrol said:
From what I’ve read the FL5 is such a good car I’d be leaving it alone. If is not broken etc…
Modders will disagree but that’s my take on it.
I'm inclined to agree, in this instance yes

Petrolism

462 posts

135 months

Friday 1st March 2024
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Reads like an advertorial.

JAMSXR

1,845 posts

76 months

Friday 1st March 2024
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911Spanker said:
JAMSXR said:
Just watch out for the sticky steering.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/new-honda-civics-cr-...

Sold mine, but issues aside, it’s a phenomenal car, just not a good daily from my perspective.
What was the depreciation like?
I was down 4k after 12 months and 7k miles, pretty good for a new car. I was lucky with the timing, checked a few weeks later and the WBAC valuation had dropped £10k. Mine was the cheapest on Auto Trader, was up for 6 weeks and only got 3 calls from dealers. It’s not a reflection on the car but more the slow market and the fact people want to buy via trade at this price point.

With cars like the M3 starting at 90k the Civic represents good value.

People moaning about luxury car tax should just be thankful we don’t use the French system. It’s €47,000 to tax a new GR Yaris!!!

fantheman80

Original Poster:

2,614 posts

78 months

Friday 1st March 2024
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JAMSXR said:
I was down 4k after 12 months and 7k miles, pretty good for a new car. I was lucky with the timing, checked a few weeks later and the WBAC valuation had dropped £10k. Mine was the cheapest on Auto Trader, was up for 6 weeks and only got 3 calls from dealers. It’s not a reflection on the car but more the slow market and the fact people want to buy via trade at this price point.

With cars like the M3 starting at 90k the Civic represents good value.

People moaning about luxury car tax should just be thankful we don’t use the French system. It’s €47,000 to tax a new GR Yaris!!!
I didnt think owners would loose a penny due to demand and small supply, but I was wrong. On the flip side I am glad some flippers and greedy dealers who took build slots got stung - at least you got yours and used it

Are you sure about that last bit??? €47,000 in tax?? you've added an extra zero surely

ChocolateFrog

34,954 posts

202 months

Friday 1st March 2024
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A whole article on suspension and no money shot.