Art and CGT
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x5x3

Original Poster:

2,426 posts

277 months

Tuesday 5th March 2024
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I hope this is all correct - can someone please confirm?

Art bought for £30K in 2012, sold in 2023 for £25K - so a £5K loss.

This year's CGT allowance is £6K.

Does this mean I could sell shares with a profit of 11K and there would be zero CGT due?

Thanks in advance.

PM3

1,127 posts

84 months

Tuesday 5th March 2024
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That would be yes , after all you would be due to pay CGT on Art if you had made profit

https://www.gov.uk/capital-gains-tax-personal-poss...



Panamax

8,512 posts

58 months

Tuesday 5th March 2024
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The question is whether what you're calling "Art" is genuinely art or is actually chattels.

In the same way you can't claim a CGT loss on sofas and wardrobes you can't claim a CGT loss on everyday wall decoration. But if it's a limited number of pieces and all properly documented you should be on good ground.

Yes, the same CGT regime applies across everything. Residential property is the only oddity in terms of tax rate and payment date.

PM3

1,127 posts

84 months

Tuesday 5th March 2024
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tbh The Gov site does actually state " Possessions" of 6k or more . The items mentioned are just examples
I'm sure there is a detailed description somewhere in the actual legislation , but that's too much work and if they state on their own gov website in unambiguous language...I just go wit that

more verbiage https://www.gov.uk/guidance/shares-and-assets-valu...

Edited by PM3 on Tuesday 5th March 13:40

OutInTheShed

13,355 posts

50 months

Tuesday 5th March 2024
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There are some weird rules in CGT.

I sold a boat at a loss in the same year I sold some shares at a profit.
I got diverse opinions, including from two people in HMRC whether I could use the boat as a tax loss.
I found it easier to spread the share sale over two years than to get a proper answer.
But I was getting told that just because you might have to pay CGT if you make a profit on something doesn't always make claiming a loss allowable.

I'm pretty sure the rules keep changing too!

x5x3

Original Poster:

2,426 posts

277 months

Wednesday 6th March 2024
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thanks all, one more quick question - how would I report this situation on my tax return?

Simpo Two

91,607 posts

289 months

Wednesday 6th March 2024
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I'd heard that Art was CGT-free... so I googled and found this:

https://www2.deloitte.com/content/dam/Deloitte/lu/...

UK is on p9.