Honda civic 2023 wheel hop solutions

[Jimmy Rich]

It still has major wheel hop and the car I virtually perfect and better than previous model but wheel hop is there especially in wet. Anyone know if there's a fix say powerfkex bushes and aftermarket suspension mods that aren't to expensive and will improve car not do it harm in anyway!!??? Overall superb car I had the very first civic type r also previous model to latest and this car is so much better apart from wheel hop. If wasn't for that you would keep pace with some Porsche models easy it so quick high to end lovely interior which shames previous model better car info screen yet plenty manual controls on the right things ...looks so much better than any previous models etc etc I love it but need get rid of the wheel hop to make it perfect!!!!!??? Please any one with good knowledge or power flex knowledge plus tr

[sunnyb13]

Are they front wheel drive

[Jimmy Rich]

Yes they are. Don't know why Honda don't make AWD but hey ho. Do you have any solutions like powerflex bushes and small changes to suspension that you can suggest? Or you wanting state the obvious !

Apart from wheel hop which is worse in the wet the car is really f ING sick. So much better styling in and out to previous model which I also had as well as the first civic type rvback in the day ...the interior is amazing , info tainment system 10 x improvement and more grown up styling unlike the cartoon model before which had poor interior I love the hell out of it I just would like to reduce wheel hop as best as is oos on a FWD 329 bhp .....top end of 170 is also mental if could get traction down better it would take on few Porsche models ....handling is great also can slide lmthe rear end out but feels totally controllable and not scary some BMW tried out drag me off ther day and I gave him head start n canned him but he may just have lost his bottle. ...but obviously I was doing only 69 mph!!

[d_a_n1979]

Jimmy Rich said:

Yes they are. Don't know why Honda don't make AWD but hey ho. Do you have any solutions like powerflex bushes and small changes to suspension that you can suggest? Or you wanting state the obvious !

Apart from wheel hop which is worse in the wet the car is really f ING sick. So much better styling in and out to previous model which I also had as well as the first civic type rvback in the day ...the interior is amazing , info tainment system 10 x improvement and more grown up styling unlike the cartoon model before which had poor interior I love the hell out of it I just would like to reduce wheel hop as best as is oos on a FWD 329 bhp .....top end of 170 is also mental if could get traction down better it would take on few Porsche models ....handling is great also can slide lmthe rear end out but feels totally controllable and not scary some BMW tried out drag me off ther day and I gave him head start n canned him but he may just have lost his bottle. ...but obviously I was doing only 69 mph!!

You need to visit a Honda specialist/motorsports garage etc; get someone who knows what they're doing re this rather than just chucking parts at it..

Maybe polybushes will help; but you need a tracking/alignment and fast road set up alongside too

It could be that fully adjustable camber arms etc are needed

My pals up here in Preston, Lancashire specialise in this, Grinspeed Motorsport; but I've no idea where in the world you are

[sunnyb13]

As Dan has eluded to, you very much do need to pay a visit to a JAP specialist.

Where are you based?

TGM sport in fleet did my integra track build.

[Nigel_O]

Sounds like a damping issue to me. I used to run a FWD car with over 480 bhp and I didn’t have any issues with wheel hop (plenty of issues with traction, especially in the wet, but the tyres were always in contact with the tarmac)

[Radec]

VAG guys had good results getting rid of it by switching to a powerflex dog bone mount insert and better tyres like Michelin's PS 4/5's

[The Wookie]

First thing I’d try is a stiffer torque reaction mount

[trevalvole]

Is this the same kind of issue that the Merc GLC with large wheels had? https://forums.mercedesclub.org.uk/index.php?threa...

In that case Merc recommended fitting all season tyres, presumably because they were softer. I suspect you wouldn't want to do that, but if the tyres fitted are known for stiffer than average construction, then perhaps changing them for something softer would help (Goodyears?).

[The Wookie]

trevalvole said:

Is this the same kind of issue that the Merc GLC with large wheels had? https://forums.mercedesclub.org.uk/index.php?threa...

In that case Merc recommended fitting all season tyres, presumably because they were softer. I suspect you wouldn't want to do that, but if the tyres fitted are known for stiffer than average construction, then perhaps changing them for something softer would help (Goodyears?).

That's an ackermann issue, I suspect the OP is talking about tramping under acceleration

[loftylad]

i20N’s suffer from this.
A change of tyres massively helps. It all but eliminates it by changing out the OE Pirelli’s.(super sticky and soft, but awful “hop” when cold or in damp conditions)
I’d get onto the Honda forums and see what they’re saying.

[PhillipM]

I'd check all the engine mounts first. I suspect you've either got a shot torque reaction link or it needs a stiffer one than OE.

[Jimmy Rich]

Radec said:

VAG guys had good results getting rid of it by switching to a powerflex dog bone mount insert and better tyres like Michelin's PS 4/5's

Thanks re powerfkex already running the std Michelin pilot sport 5s

[Jimmy Rich]

d_a_n1979 said:

You need to visit a Honda specialist/motorsports garage etc; get someone who knows what they're doing re this rather than just chucking parts at it..

Maybe polybushes will help; but you need a tracking/alignment and fast road set up alongside too

It could be that fully adjustable camber arms etc are needed

My pals up here in Preston, Lancashire specialise in this, Grinspeed Motorsport; but I've no idea where in the world you are

Thanks for that I shall look up local Specialist in Jap cars . I'm in Watford st Alban's area can get into n.london essay if you know anyone your could recommend. Cheers

[Jimmy Rich]

Thanks for everyone's useful advice lads ✌️✌️✌️👍👍😁😁