Heathrow Airport: Two planes collide on runway

Heathrow Airport: Two planes collide on runway

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48k

Original Poster:

13,105 posts

149 months

Saturday 6th April
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FFS when will the BBC get proper aviation reporters who understand that the apron is not a runway.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-68749...

Mr_J

362 posts

48 months

Saturday 6th April
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I had to laugh at the headline and photo - so much so that I sent it to a mate. He and I may be more knowledgeable given that we design airports but it's pretty obvious it's not one of the runways.

I wouldn't want to be the Virgin tug driver right now.

Brother D

3,722 posts

177 months

Saturday 6th April
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HORROR SMASH AND PASSENGER TERROR !!!



Some people need to be in jail for this level of hysteria...

MitchT

15,874 posts

210 months

Saturday 6th April
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Brother D said:
Some people need to be in jail for this level of hysteria...
I agree. If you only read the headline you'd be expecting something akin to Tenerife '77 when it's actually the aviation equivalent of a car park scrape. They really need to get grown ups to do the writing.

aeropilot

34,646 posts

228 months

Saturday 6th April
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Brother D said:
HORROR SMASH AND PASSENGER TERROR !!!



Some people need to be in jail for this level of hysteria...
It is about time that the media was take to task over such over the top hysteria.......

banghead

hidetheelephants

24,428 posts

194 months

Saturday 6th April
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WTF? Did they get Kelvin MacKenzie circa 1982 to do the sub-edit?

tim0409

4,431 posts

160 months

Saturday 6th April
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BBC article states…

“There were no injuries and no delays in the incident, which involved a British Airways plane with 121 passengers on board and a Virgin Atlantic plane.”

then a bit later…

“The passengers on the British Airways flight were scheduled to depart to Accra, Ghana, at 12:40 BST.
British Airways said it provided an alternative aircraft for them, which was rescheduled to take off at 18:00.”

scratchchin

captain_cynic

12,036 posts

96 months

Saturday 6th April
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48k said:
FFS when will the BBC get proper aviation reporters who understand that the apron is not a runway.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-68749...
The Beeb's reporting is woeful, but they still are the best of a bad lot (as evidenced by the Mirror's headline.

tim0409 said:
BBC article states…

“There were no injuries and no delays in the incident, which involved a British Airways plane with 121 passengers on board and a Virgin Atlantic plane.”

then a bit later…

“The passengers on the British Airways flight were scheduled to depart to Accra, Ghana, at 12:40 BST.
British Airways said it provided an alternative aircraft for them, which was rescheduled to take off at 18:00.”

scratchchin
Pretty obvious they meant no delays to other flights.

2HFL

1,203 posts

42 months

Saturday 6th April
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MitchT said:
Brother D said:
Some people need to be in jail for this level of hysteria...
I agree. If you only read the headline you'd be expecting something akin to Tenerife '77 when it's actually the aviation equivalent of a car park scrape. They really need to get grown ups to do the writing.
The Tenerife incident randomly appeared in my YouTube feed the other day. What a terrible tragedy that was.

IanH755

1,861 posts

121 months

Sunday 7th April
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aeropilot said:
Brother D said:
HORROR SMASH AND PASSENGER TERROR !!!



Some people need to be in jail for this level of hysteria...
It is about time that the media was take to task over such over the top hysteria.......

banghead
  • *EDIT*** The original BBC webpage had a very different headline to the current "just a minor bump" one (two planes "collide" at Heathrow) and Yes, I know the one in the quote is from the Mirror!
Nowadays it's not about "facts", its not about "accuracy", its not even about "the truth" - Its all about being first (no matter what) and getting "clicks" to the webpage.

Now for an "advertiser" based Media site I can at least understand that, as more clicks = more impressions on customers = more money from advertisers, but for the BBC website and BBC "journalists" (in the very loosest of terms), who have absolutely ZERO need to continually drop to a similar almost "gutter level" as the Mirror etc, to do so makes me so sad compared to how well respected it used to be.

Edited by IanH755 on Sunday 7th April 00:33

the-norseman

12,448 posts

172 months

Sunday 7th April
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A lot of these reporters probably sit watching youtube videos at night of fully grown men playing Minecraft etc and getting overly excited about stuff on the game.

ferret50

913 posts

10 months

Sunday 7th April
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When I was trundling Vulcans around RAF Waddington 40 years ago the Crew Chief had a lad in the cockpit ready to apply the brakes and a guy on each wingtip to check clearances to avoid just this type of damage!

biggrin

leef44

4,397 posts

154 months

Sunday 7th April
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IanH755 said:
  • *EDIT*** The original BBC webpage had a very different headline to the current "just a minor bump" one (two planes "collide" at Heathrow) and Yes, I know the one in the quote is from the Mirror!
Nowadays it's not about "facts", its not about "accuracy", its not even about "the truth" - Its all about being first (no matter what) and getting "clicks" to the webpage.

Now for an "advertiser" based Media site I can at least understand that, as more clicks = more impressions on customers = more money from advertisers, but for the BBC website and BBC "journalists" (in the very loosest of terms), who have absolutely ZERO need to continually drop to a similar almost "gutter level" as the Mirror etc, to do so makes me so sad compared to how well respected it used to be.

Edited by IanH755 on Sunday 7th April 00:33
The truth would be passenger aeroplane wing clipped while parking. However I wonder whether it does matter for the BBC in that when people google then click on link with the most exciting title.

For the BBC, the number of clicks could mean user statistics to prove value for money of licence fee

48k

Original Poster:

13,105 posts

149 months

Sunday 7th April
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leef44 said:
The truth would be passenger aeroplane wing clipped while parking.
No, the aircraft had already parked. The truth would be it was being pushed back from the terminal by a tug to be towed to a remote stand.

At least the BBC have edited their story now and moderated the sensationalism and innaccuracies slightly.

JW911

896 posts

196 months

Friday 12th April
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“Collision on the runway” is what happened in Tokyo a few months ago. A tad more dramatic I would suggest.

tim0409

4,431 posts

160 months

Saturday 13th April
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captain_cynic said:
48k said:
FFS when will the BBC get proper aviation reporters who understand that the apron is not a runway.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-68749...
The Beeb's reporting is woeful, but they still are the best of a bad lot (as evidenced by the Mirror's headline.

tim0409 said:
BBC article states…

“There were no injuries and no delays in the incident, which involved a British Airways plane with 121 passengers on board and a Virgin Atlantic plane.”

then a bit later…

“The passengers on the British Airways flight were scheduled to depart to Accra, Ghana, at 12:40 BST.
British Airways said it provided an alternative aircraft for them, which was rescheduled to take off at 18:00.”

scratchchin
Pretty obvious they meant no delays to other flights.
Not obvious at all; if that’s what they meant then they should have said “no delays as a result of the incident”.

captain_cynic

12,036 posts

96 months

Saturday 13th April
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tim0409 said:
captain_cynic said:
48k said:
FFS when will the BBC get proper aviation reporters who understand that the apron is not a runway.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-68749...
The Beeb's reporting is woeful, but they still are the best of a bad lot (as evidenced by the Mirror's headline.

tim0409 said:
BBC article states…

“There were no injuries and no delays in the incident, which involved a British Airways plane with 121 passengers on board and a Virgin Atlantic plane.”

then a bit later…

“The passengers on the British Airways flight were scheduled to depart to Accra, Ghana, at 12:40 BST.
British Airways said it provided an alternative aircraft for them, which was rescheduled to take off at 18:00.”

scratchchin
Pretty obvious they meant no delays to other flights.
Not obvious at all; if that’s what they meant then they should have said “no delays as a result of the incident”.
If you had trouble making that inference then that is your problem.

It was pretty obvious what they meant.