Average speed NIP - 2nd Camera image blurred
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Can anyone enlighten me for this one.
An NIP dropped in the post for 57mph in a 50 zone. Registration correct, could have been me as I was all over the area on the day in question.
However, in the supporting evidence there are two images. One crystal clear passing the first camera, one completely blurred passing the second.
For both they're somehow picked out a perfect clear snip of my number plate and pasted them into the evidence above both camera shots.
This is the second camera image.
No amount of zooming and enhancing enables me to pull the same crystal clear shot of the numberplate they have.
Is it safe to assume this will mean the alleged offence can be contested or are the images just nice to have and won't mean anything in the eyes of the Met Police?
An NIP dropped in the post for 57mph in a 50 zone. Registration correct, could have been me as I was all over the area on the day in question.
However, in the supporting evidence there are two images. One crystal clear passing the first camera, one completely blurred passing the second.
For both they're somehow picked out a perfect clear snip of my number plate and pasted them into the evidence above both camera shots.
This is the second camera image.
No amount of zooming and enhancing enables me to pull the same crystal clear shot of the numberplate they have.
Is it safe to assume this will mean the alleged offence can be contested or are the images just nice to have and won't mean anything in the eyes of the Met Police?
LivLL said:
No amount of zooming and enhancing enables me to pull the same crystal clear shot of the numberplate they have.
Is it safe to assume this will mean the alleged offence can be contested or are the images just nice to have and won't mean anything in the eyes of the Met Police?
Did you not just shout ENHANCE like in CSI? Shame.Is it safe to assume this will mean the alleged offence can be contested or are the images just nice to have and won't mean anything in the eyes of the Met Police?
My understanding is that the evidence photo isn't the one that captures your plate. The ANPR device is separate, and the "gotcha" camera is there to take a photo of your car and, often, the variable speed limit displayed above in a wide shot.
No form knowledge, just speculation.
If there are multiple pictures of the same vehicle, taken seconds apart, why would it matter if the number plate is illegible on most of them.
As long as it’s clear on one of them so the car can be correctly identified that should be sufficient. Unless you want to claim it’s a different vehicle in the other pics?
As long as it’s clear on one of them so the car can be correctly identified that should be sufficient. Unless you want to claim it’s a different vehicle in the other pics?
That's the question Alex.
Is the prosecution purely on the numberplate recognition or is it from the image and plate recognition.
If it's both, I'd expect the 2nd image to be clear else its quite possible the car is a different one and the NPR has cocked up.
Unlikely I know but it's a question.
Why would I pay out and take points on flimsy evidence?
Is the prosecution purely on the numberplate recognition or is it from the image and plate recognition.
If it's both, I'd expect the 2nd image to be clear else its quite possible the car is a different one and the NPR has cocked up.
Unlikely I know but it's a question.
Why would I pay out and take points on flimsy evidence?
Pit Pony said:
LivLL said:
Why would I pay out and take points on flimsy evidence?
Because you know you were speeding? BTW, you've been a great help with your informative posts, thanks for the help.
LivLL said:
That's the question Alex.
Is the prosecution purely on the numberplate recognition or is it from the image and plate recognition.
If it's both, I'd expect the 2nd image to be clear else its quite possible the car is a different one and the NPR has cocked up.
Unlikely I know but it's a question.
Why would I pay out and take points on flimsy evidence?
Well fight it then, just don't forget to report back as to how you get on.Is the prosecution purely on the numberplate recognition or is it from the image and plate recognition.
If it's both, I'd expect the 2nd image to be clear else its quite possible the car is a different one and the NPR has cocked up.
Unlikely I know but it's a question.
Why would I pay out and take points on flimsy evidence?
lancslad58 said:
They have far better camera software than you for processing images
They also have a video stream to work with in real time.That enables some information to be taken from one frame, some from the next and so on.
Also their camera is probably a lot more pixels than the compressed image they send to the mugs.
LivLL said:
That's the question Alex.
Why would I pay out and take points on flimsy evidence?
Because it's not that flimsy and the only alternative option is to challenge it in court with the most likely outcome of losing and receiving a large dent to your wallet to the tune of a grand or so rather than a 100 quid FP and 3 points or possibly a course if eligible. Sometimes pragmatism can be the better option however annoying it may seem at the time.Why would I pay out and take points on flimsy evidence?
Was this on a motorway or A road?
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