Masterchef vs Jamie Oliver

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Simpo Two

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85,490 posts

266 months

Thursday 18th April
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I generally follow Masterchef, and the same day happened to see Jamie Oliver boshing something together in a bowl.

Would he be any good at the Masterchef challenges which culminate in 'fine dining', or is he too much of a bish-bash-bosh rustic man?

sherman

13,324 posts

216 months

Thursday 18th April
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He doesnt chase michelin requirements. He would rather make happy ethical food.
Michelin just is not his style.

Simpo Two

Original Poster:

85,490 posts

266 months

Thursday 18th April
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sherman said:
He doesnt chase michelin requirements. He would rather make happy ethical food.
Michelin just is not his style.
Agreed, but I wondered if he could do it if he tried. My cooking skills are about 1 out of 10 but I was a bit aghast when he just ripped a red pepper into lumps...

Douglas Quaid

2,290 posts

86 months

Thursday 18th April
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In my opinion he could easily do it. His understanding of ingredient combinations is superb. His entire life is dedicated to food. He is perfectly capable of cooking to a high level, he just focuses on recipes that are easy for average chumps.

pocketspring

5,315 posts

22 months

Thursday 18th April
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Anyone who sticks chilli jam in egg fried rice needs to hang up their knife set.

sherman

13,324 posts

216 months

Thursday 18th April
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Simpo Two said:
sherman said:
He doesnt chase michelin requirements. He would rather make happy ethical food.
Michelin just is not his style.
Agreed, but I wondered if he could do it if he tried. My cooking skills are about 1 out of 10 but I was a bit aghast when he just ripped a red pepper into lumps...
He did work for several years at the River cafe. Its got 1 star. It got it around the time Jamie was there.
https://www.rivercafe.co.uk/

Mobile Chicane

20,841 posts

213 months

Friday 19th April
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sherman said:
Simpo Two said:
sherman said:
He doesnt chase michelin requirements. He would rather make happy ethical food.
Michelin just is not his style.
Agreed, but I wondered if he could do it if he tried. My cooking skills are about 1 out of 10 but I was a bit aghast when he just ripped a red pepper into lumps...
He did work for several years at the River cafe. Its got 1 star. It got it around the time Jamie was there.
https://www.rivercafe.co.uk/
His length of tenure at the River Café / his journey into television are somewhat murky.

Apparently he was 'spotted' by a BBC producer while working there.

My office was directly above, we'd see the chefs doing their prep outside in the sunshine. Never, ever, saw him.

Personally I think the time-honoured hairy chequebook, in reverse.

sherman

13,324 posts

216 months

Friday 19th April
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Mobile Chicane said:
sherman said:
Simpo Two said:
sherman said:
He doesnt chase michelin requirements. He would rather make happy ethical food.
Michelin just is not his style.
Agreed, but I wondered if he could do it if he tried. My cooking skills are about 1 out of 10 but I was a bit aghast when he just ripped a red pepper into lumps...
He did work for several years at the River cafe. Its got 1 star. It got it around the time Jamie was there.
https://www.rivercafe.co.uk/
His length of tenure at the River Café / his journey into television are somewhat murky.

Apparently he was 'spotted' by a BBC producer while working there.

My office was directly above, we'd see the chefs doing their prep outside in the sunshine. Never, ever, saw him.

Personally I think the time-honoured hairy chequebook, in reverse.
Just going by his wikipedia.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamie_Oliver

It doesnt give exact dates but it does say he worked there around the Michelin star time.

I think you would have been hard pushed to spot an unknown at that time chef in amongst all the others when they were all dressed in their kitchen uniform.

Mobile Chicane

20,841 posts

213 months

Friday 19th April
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sherman said:
Just going by his wikipedia.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamie_Oliver

It doesnt give exact dates but it does say he worked there around the Michelin star time.

I think you would have been hard pushed to spot an unknown at that time chef in amongst all the others when they were all dressed in their kitchen uniform.
I disagree.

Mobile Chicane

20,841 posts

213 months

Friday 19th April
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It's not as though I dislike Jamie Oliver. I don't know the guy. In some ways his mission to get the nation cooking from scratch is to be applauded.

Just don't let him anywhere near cooking on a budget, where at best he comes across as a bit of an out-of-touch tw@t, but at worst bolsters the unhelpful media narrative that 'poor people' eat badly due to laziness and / or ignorance.

I so happened to catch a repeat of Jamie's Budget Meals last week, and had to vent:





rolleyes



Edited by Mobile Chicane on Friday 19th April 19:14

Simpo Two

Original Poster:

85,490 posts

266 months

Friday 19th April
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That truffle oil comment plus having a celeriac in an oven for two hours reminds me of 'Let them eat cake'...

Just watching Wetherspoods vs Toby Carvery. A good quote from Tim W: 'Poor people need a bargain, rich people like a bargain'.

Mobile Chicane

20,841 posts

213 months

Friday 19th April
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Simpo Two said:
That truffle oil comment plus having a celeriac in an oven for two hours reminds me of 'Let them eat cake'...

Just watching Wetherspoods vs Toby Carvery. A good quote from Tim W: 'Poor people need a bargain, rich people like a bargain'.
Well, quite.

As the saying goes: "Poor people need to save money; rich people prefer to."

Watching JO back tonight. Today it's 'Time saving meals'.

"First, take your pomegranate."

Fast, cheap, good. Pick any two.

bolidemichael

13,885 posts

202 months

Friday 19th April
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JO is easy to knock. However, Fifteen was an excellent initiative that was genuinely staffed with those that needed a head start in life.

Back on topic, however, he’d do well in Masterchef if it came to the combination of flavours. Presentation wise, he’s more into the romantic notion of communal mediterranean family gatherings i.e. food served charmingly and lots of hands and crumbs.

Mobile Chicane

20,841 posts

213 months

Friday 19th April
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bolidemichael said:
JO is easy to knock. However, Fifteen was an excellent initiative that was genuinely staffed with those that needed a head start in life.

Back on topic, however, he’d do well in Masterchef if it came to the combination of flavours. Presentation wise, he’s more into the romantic notion of communal mediterranean family gatherings i.e. food served charmingly and lots of hands and crumbs.
I think that's true.

However Brits don't know how to deal with such a thing.

"Get amongst it?"

It's either Lord of The Flies, or nothing.

bolidemichael

13,885 posts

202 months

Friday 19th April
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Mobile Chicane said:
bolidemichael said:
JO is easy to knock. However, Fifteen was an excellent initiative that was genuinely staffed with those that needed a head start in life.

Back on topic, however, he’d do well in Masterchef if it came to the combination of flavours. Presentation wise, he’s more into the romantic notion of communal mediterranean family gatherings i.e. food served charmingly and lots of hands and crumbs.
I think that's true.

However Brits don't know how to deal with such a thing.

"Get amongst it?"

It's either Lord of The Flies, or nothing.
Absolutely, sharing crisps or chips is a no, unless on a pub bench.

M5-911

1,349 posts

46 months

Friday 19th April
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He will do as well as many other chefs on Masterchef. MasterChef is a competition, competition chefs prepare their dishes and repeat the same dishes for month to perfect it. Give him the same time to think about his dishes and work on his presentation and he will perform like any othe good chefs. On the other hand, if the competition was about spontaneous cooking and thinkink of a quick dish without preparation, he will destroy most of the guys on the show.

nikaiyo2

4,744 posts

196 months

Saturday 20th April
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bolidemichael said:
JO is easy to knock. However, Fifteen was an excellent initiative that was genuinely staffed with those that needed a head start in life.

Back on topic, however, he’d do well in Masterchef if it came to the combination of flavours. Presentation wise, he’s more into the romantic notion of communal mediterranean family gatherings i.e. food served charmingly and lots of hands and crumbs.
It was shame the other restaurants let it down.

Union jacks was about the worst restaurant I ever went to. Pizza Hut was better.


JerseyRoyal

56 posts

1 month

Saturday 20th April
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Douglas Quaid said:
In my opinion he could easily do it. His understanding of ingredient combinations is superb.
Is it? I’ve not watched any of his shows for years but he was always the home cook with good marketing to me.

I’ve never seen him do anything particularly inspired.

His Jamie’s Italian restaurants aren’t (weren’t?) any better than Zizzi’s imo.

Simpo Two

Original Poster:

85,490 posts

266 months

Saturday 20th April
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M5-911 said:
He will do as well as many other chefs on Masterchef. MasterChef is a competition, competition chefs prepare their dishes and repeat the same dishes for month to perfect it. Give him the same time to think about his dishes and work on his presentation and he will perform like any othe good chefs. On the other hand, if the competition was about spontaneous cooking and thinkink of a quick dish without preparation, he will destroy most of the guys on the show.
Well, Professional Masterchef has real chefs competing, but the main series features ordinary people who like cooking. That said no doubt their opening dishes will be practiced or at least familiar, but they soon end up in new territory. The show includes an 'invention test'.

I think he could do very well but would probably lose interest along the way; after all he has no need to compete!