Terrible Road Conditions And Not Paying Road Tax

Terrible Road Conditions And Not Paying Road Tax

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Turning Japanese

Original Poster:

65 posts

102 months

Monday 29th April
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Im sure someone much more intelligent and informed on here will be along soon to set my straight but basically why don't why all stop paying our road tax in protest to the rapidly deteriorating road conditions and safety issues they are causing?

The roads around my home in Buckinghamshire are in such a poor state that im regularly having to avoid oncoming cars because we are both spending to much time looking at the road surface or trying to avoid failed roads surfaces, oncoming traffic becomes a secondary concern. Most of the time the only way to make progress is to straddle both lanes in order to avoid the sides which have failed but in a lot of cases the whole road surface has failed. Some roads are now impassable as they are so bad.

My local council doesn't seem to care and tells me they are doing all the repairs necessary but I know there are sections of road that have not been touched or repaired in over 5 years.

It got me thinking that someone should start a petition to get everyone to stop paying their road tax in order to force the drastic repairs our roads need.

Thoughts?

Kuwahara

860 posts

19 months

Monday 29th April
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General taxation pays for road maintenance also,if it was just VED that would be even worse…

Rusty Old-Banger

3,997 posts

214 months

Monday 29th April
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Kuwahara said:
General taxation pays for road maintenance also,if it was just VED that would be even worse…
This is it, and roads are behind other things in the queue for funding - health, schools, etc.

Tindersticks

101 posts

1 month

Monday 29th April
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Road tax hasn’t existed for many years.

Domski86

56 posts

22 months

Monday 29th April
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Sorry couldn't resist!

Road tax was abolished in 1937.

"Funding for the maintenance of local roads is provided by the Department for Transport and the Department for Levelling Up, Housing and Communities to local highways authorities, who are responsible for maintaining their road networks to an adequate standard"

In essence, we get the roads we pay for. Blame the government for the state of our road network.

Master Bean

3,642 posts

121 months

Monday 29th April
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You could buy an ev or fiesta 1 litre. They're free to tax.

SpudLink

5,939 posts

193 months

Monday 29th April
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A bit off topic:

There’s a little B road here in Leicestershire that always seems to have immaculate tarmac. Any imperfections seem to be repaired before they become potholes.
It’s a couple of miles long, with nothing but a few farms and a couple of houses.
I often wonder what is so special about this road that it deserves such special treatment, while the other roads in the county are allowed to deteriorate.

Mammasaid

3,892 posts

98 months

Monday 29th April
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SpudLink said:
A bit off topic:

There’s a little B road here in Leicestershire that always seems to have immaculate tarmac. Any imperfections seem to be repaired before they become potholes.
It’s a couple of miles long, with nothing but a few farms and a couple of houses.
I often wonder what is so special about this road that it deserves such special treatment, while the other roads in the county are allowed to deteriorate.
Where does your local councillor/MP live?

Turning Japanese

Original Poster:

65 posts

102 months

Monday 29th April
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I know that that our car tax doesn't directly pay for the roads. Just feels infuriating we pay this to drive on such terrible roads.

Maybe if they charged EVs and small cars something there might be some money to fix the roads.

Pica-Pica

13,898 posts

85 months

Monday 29th April
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Turning Japanese said:
I know that that our car tax doesn't directly pay for the roads. Just feels infuriating we pay this to drive on such terrible roads.

Maybe if they charged EVs and small cars something there might be some money to fix the roads.
It ain’t fking car TAX. It’s VED.

Dave.

7,393 posts

254 months

Tuesday 30th April
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Pica-Pica said:
It ain’t fking car TAX. It’s VED.
You sure?

https://www.gov.uk/browse/driving/vehicle-tax-mot-...

hehe


Flumpo

3,805 posts

74 months

Tuesday 30th April
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SpudLink said:
A bit off topic:

There’s a little B road here in Leicestershire that always seems to have immaculate tarmac. Any imperfections seem to be repaired before they become potholes.
It’s a couple of miles long, with nothing but a few farms and a couple of houses.
I often wonder what is so special about this road that it deserves such special treatment, while the other roads in the county are allowed to deteriorate.
Is it on any special route? I know before Tour de France came through Yorkshire a lot of roads were spruced up. I also heard a conspiracy that Leeds city council revoked the licence of a strip club that was on the start line.

ccr32

1,983 posts

219 months

Tuesday 30th April
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Master Bean said:
You could buy an ev or fiesta 1 litre. They're free to tax.
Not for much longer. EV’s will have to pay starting next April too.

croyde

23,036 posts

231 months

Tuesday 30th April
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My only regret about moving from a Dacia Duster to my current Abarth is how much better the Dacia was on the deteriorating roads.

Even here in leafy Richmond Borough SW London, some of the roads are basic off road courses with some really choice crevasses criss crossing the crumbling tarmac.

Prone to really damaging your car and potentially lethal on a motorbike.

SpudLink

5,939 posts

193 months

Tuesday 30th April
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Mammasaid said:
SpudLink said:
A bit off topic:

There’s a little B road here in Leicestershire that always seems to have immaculate tarmac. Any imperfections seem to be repaired before they become potholes.
It’s a couple of miles long, with nothing but a few farms and a couple of houses.
I often wonder what is so special about this road that it deserves such special treatment, while the other roads in the county are allowed to deteriorate.
Where does your local councillor/MP live?
Neighboring constituency. I looked up his home address, and it is in the area, but not suspiciously close.

Flumpo said:
Is it on any special route? I know before Tour de France came through Yorkshire a lot of roads were spruced up. I also heard a conspiracy that Leeds city council revoked the licence of a strip club that was on the start line.
Between ordinary villages. It is very close to Bruntingthorpe airfield, but otherwise I don't know of anything special around there.


Turning Japanese

Original Poster:

65 posts

102 months

Tuesday 30th April
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I guess my point of this post was that some of us are paying a lot of money each year to use our cars on roads that are frankly dangerous to ourselves and other road users as well as causing damage to our prized possessions and there is nothing we can do about it.

the tribester

2,429 posts

87 months

Tuesday 30th April
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You pay the same duty whether you drive the car daily, or keep it in the garage.

What happens when you withhold your duty in protest, and then drive that fabled smooth piece in Leicestershire? Do you then make a voluntary contribution?

POIDH

828 posts

66 months

Tuesday 30th April
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Turning Japanese said:
Im sure someone much more intelligent and informed on here will be along soon to set my straight but basically why don't why all stop paying our road tax in protest to the rapidly deteriorating road conditions and safety issues they are causing?

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Thoughts?
I assume you're also suggesting not paying for NHS or Education or Defence or any other Government or Council service, as so many of them are also poor?

Vote in a party that isn't focused on having snouts on the trough, decide that Brexst really has cost this country £billions etc etc Then maybe things might get better.

vikingaero

10,480 posts

170 months

Tuesday 30th April
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If you solely refused to pay your VED/Road Tax, you would very rapidly fall foul of the Courts and bailiffs seeking to enforce non-payment.

If you convinced tens of millions of people to refused to pay their VED/Road Tax then you would get somewhere.

Omaruk

634 posts

160 months

Wednesday 1st May
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SpudLink said:
Mammasaid said:
SpudLink said:
A bit off topic:

There’s a little B road here in Leicestershire that always seems to have immaculate tarmac. Any imperfections seem to be repaired before they become potholes.
It’s a couple of miles long, with nothing but a few farms and a couple of houses.
I often wonder what is so special about this road that it deserves such special treatment, while the other roads in the county are allowed to deteriorate.
Where does your local councillor/MP live?
Neighboring constituency. I looked up his home address, and it is in the area, but not suspiciously close.

Flumpo said:
Is it on any special route? I know before Tour de France came through Yorkshire a lot of roads were spruced up. I also heard a conspiracy that Leeds city council revoked the licence of a strip club that was on the start line.
Between ordinary villages. It is very close to Bruntingthorpe airfield, but otherwise I don't know of anything special around there.
Its probably part of the Rutland TT a motorcycle route. Google it and I am sure its on that route