Did you always need planning permission for a swimming pool?

Did you always need planning permission for a swimming pool?

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Sebastian Tombs

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2,061 posts

193 months

Tuesday 7th May
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Another spanner in the works with selling the late FiL’s house.
He has a large swimming pool which was installed in 1991. There is no paperwork, apart from bills.
Did you even need planning permission for a pool in 1991? (In Lot)
He left all his bills, he had permission for everything else, and all the papers are there, so this is a bit of a puzzle.
He said he had it done along with that of a neighbour, who was a police officer. I can’t imagine him just saying “bks to it”

WyrleyD

1,926 posts

149 months

Wednesday 8th May
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Can only speak for Dept 87 (Haute-Vienne) but yes, we needed planning permission in 2000 and had to submit all plans to the Mairie initially and someone came out from the Dept. to measure up when it was completed. Surprised it hasn't been picked up before as it will be obvious that it's there if you look at the detailed Cadastre (which is built up from overflying surveys).

Has someone raised it as a problem then? It might be worth enquiring at the Marie as to what the rules were at the time.

Edited by WyrleyD on Wednesday 8th May 07:50

harrycovert

432 posts

177 months

Wednesday 8th May
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I did one in Dept 12 in 1998 I didn't need planning, just told the Marie, more like a building control thing Was told if I didn't hear back from them in 21days I could go ahead

rdjohn

6,231 posts

196 months

Wednesday 8th May
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A friend sailed close to the wind about 2010.

He bought a kit with wooden walls and a liner. It was classified as an above ground pool, but by the time he put decking around it, it wasn’t. No planning and no increase in value.

When I built in 2004, the pool was part of the planning application and required a completion certificate. I would imagine that it will need retrospective consent with a clear indication of how water will be disposed. They did not allow it to go to the sewer and my neighbouring vignerons were not happy about a soak-away, but that was what was approved.

Rushjob

1,865 posts

259 months

Wednesday 8th May
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Sebastian Tombs said:
Another spanner in the works with selling the late FiL’s house.
He has a large swimming pool which was installed in 1991. There is no paperwork, apart from bills.
Did you even need planning permission for a pool in 1991? (In Lot)
He left all his bills, he had permission for everything else, and all the papers are there, so this is a bit of a puzzle.
He said he had it done along with that of a neighbour, who was a police officer. I can’t imagine him just saying “bks to it”
Is the pool mentioned on the tax d'habitation? In the papers is there mention of a tax d'amenagement for it? If so, especially if you still have those papers going back some years, it is obvious that it was declared as he was paying tax on it.

Sebastian Tombs

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2,061 posts

193 months

Wednesday 8th May
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It's on the cadastral plans (although so is a mystery 2nd one which has never existed, so that's another thing we need to correct) and he's always paid the taxe on it.

Interesting that PP wasn't necessarily a thing back then.

harrycovert

432 posts

177 months

Wednesday 8th May
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Things were different back in 1995, when we wanted to put in a fosse, my neighbour who sold use the house and was deputy mayor,said why don't we extend the waste pipe from the middle of our garden on to his land if we were bothered about the waste

paulwirral

3,165 posts

136 months

Thursday 9th May
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I installed a 8 x 4 pool in 2002 and needed permission , I seem to remember it was size related at the time .
Have you got the necessary safety measures in place , locked gate , fence , alarm or a mixture of all ?
It will be questioned by the notaire on the sale of the house , I didn’t have on the sale of the second house but seeing as you sit in the same room as your buyer when exchanging just make sure your telling the same story and you’ll be fine .
This goes for fittings and furnishings too .