M12 best reported 0-60 time ever?!
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Also very grippy tarmac and perfect conditions etc.This was in Car & Driver's March issue.
They used our US distributor's 3R demo car, which I have been told by 1g is 100 per cent standard.
However, the surface used and the ambient temp during the run will make a difference to the final figs. Best I've achieved in a 3R was 3.9 at Millbrook, but Ollie Marriage from Auto Express beat me with a 3.7 on a newly laid, grippier track in Wales. I'm also sure that the US car had the uprated 'shift mechanism, whereas the above figs were achieved with the previous, slower 'shift.
Simon Hucknall
Press Officer
Noble Automotive Ltd.
They used our US distributor's 3R demo car, which I have been told by 1g is 100 per cent standard.
However, the surface used and the ambient temp during the run will make a difference to the final figs. Best I've achieved in a 3R was 3.9 at Millbrook, but Ollie Marriage from Auto Express beat me with a 3.7 on a newly laid, grippier track in Wales. I'm also sure that the US car had the uprated 'shift mechanism, whereas the above figs were achieved with the previous, slower 'shift.
Simon Hucknall
Press Officer
Noble Automotive Ltd.
[quote]I'm sure thats a charge cooler in the picture. where did they get the back lights? [/quote]
It is just a larger intercooler with a puller fan on the back side to keep the intercooler from heatsoaking(option available from 1g). It just keeps horsepower at it's max on a hot day, it does not add horsepower.
The tail lights are standard units for U.S. cars. They are from the Hyundai Sonata.
It is just a larger intercooler with a puller fan on the back side to keep the intercooler from heatsoaking(option available from 1g). It just keeps horsepower at it's max on a hot day, it does not add horsepower.
The tail lights are standard units for U.S. cars. They are from the Hyundai Sonata.
micknall said:
No way. First is essential for a lightning getaway.
S
Fair enough, I was only thinking that the quickest 0-60 times I've read about have been without a gearchange. Examples being Macca F1 (3.2) and Ultima (2.7?) For a Noble time of 3.3 secs that would mean that the rate of acceleration would have been better than the Mac F1 due to time lost changing gear. Maybe modern rubber can give this much of an advantage?
From reading Autocar 0-100-0 I know that Noble 1st gear acceleration rate is about 20mph per sec per sec (ie 0-30 in 1.5 ish) In the past I remember a US mag getting a 0-60 time from a Corvette that was noticably better than anyone else (may have been same one). What they did was not to take foot off throttle inbetween gear changes
Anyway, any sub 4 sec 0-60 is rather special, but the Nobles main thing is still as a mean lean cornering machine.
On Car and Drivers testing I found the following from their "Road Test Digest" rules of testing.
Acceleration: Elapsed times from 0 to 60 and through a quarter-mile distance using full-throttle acceleration. Test vehicle is loaded with driver, full tank of gas, and 10 pounds of test instrumentation. With manual-transmission cars, wheelspin or clutch slip or both are used at the starting line to make the best of the engine's power characteristics and the vehilcle traction. All up-shifts are lift-throttle with the clutch disengaged....
Acceleration: Elapsed times from 0 to 60 and through a quarter-mile distance using full-throttle acceleration. Test vehicle is loaded with driver, full tank of gas, and 10 pounds of test instrumentation. With manual-transmission cars, wheelspin or clutch slip or both are used at the starting line to make the best of the engine's power characteristics and the vehilcle traction. All up-shifts are lift-throttle with the clutch disengaged....
[quote]On Car and Drivers testing I found the following from their "Road Test Digest" rules of testing.
Acceleration: Elapsed times from 0 to 60 and through a quarter-mile distance using full-throttle acceleration. Test vehicle is loaded with driver, full tank of gas, and 10 pounds of test instrumentation. With manual-transmission cars, wheelspin or clutch slip or both are used at the starting line to make the best of the engine's power characteristics and the vehilcle traction. All up-shifts are lift-throttle with the clutch disengaged....[/quote]
Mike,
Would that be from the Jurassic Period Road Test Digest rules of testing?
I believe that the driver in this case also did not fully disengage the clutch between shifts (i.e., not all the way to the floor).
So....grippy concrete tarmac (new private airstrip or a new stretch of freeway will do)......launch at the appropriate rpm with limited tire spin...... full throttle through shift (oh, buddy!
)......., clutch in just enough to shift (don't grind those gears, dude).....slam it into 2nd while side stepping the clutch at the same time..... voila! 0-60 in 3.3 sec's. 
Must have been a real rush to watch. The 0-100 time was pretty impressive for a 3R at 8.1 sec's too.
I wonder if anyone got a video of it from 1g. I also wonder what the same driver could have done with an M400......Simon? Has this been suggested to 1g?
Craig
Acceleration: Elapsed times from 0 to 60 and through a quarter-mile distance using full-throttle acceleration. Test vehicle is loaded with driver, full tank of gas, and 10 pounds of test instrumentation. With manual-transmission cars, wheelspin or clutch slip or both are used at the starting line to make the best of the engine's power characteristics and the vehilcle traction. All up-shifts are lift-throttle with the clutch disengaged....[/quote]
Mike,
Would that be from the Jurassic Period Road Test Digest rules of testing?
I believe that the driver in this case also did not fully disengage the clutch between shifts (i.e., not all the way to the floor).
So....grippy concrete tarmac (new private airstrip or a new stretch of freeway will do)......launch at the appropriate rpm with limited tire spin...... full throttle through shift (oh, buddy!
)......., clutch in just enough to shift (don't grind those gears, dude).....slam it into 2nd while side stepping the clutch at the same time..... voila! 0-60 in 3.3 sec's. Must have been a real rush to watch. The 0-100 time was pretty impressive for a 3R at 8.1 sec's too.
I wonder if anyone got a video of it from 1g. I also wonder what the same driver could have done with an M400......Simon? Has this been suggested to 1g?
Craig
Craig,
Well, the best I've managed in a 400 is 3.5 at Millbrook and 3.6 at Bruntingthorpe (different surfaces) - that's four tenths quicker than my 3R time. So the road tester in the States should, theoretically, be able to do a straight three!
Somehow I doubt it, though. Mass and traction start to become far more of an issue than outright power and technique when your chasing these hyper-quick times.
Simon Hucknall
Press Officer
Noble Automotive Ltd.
Well, the best I've managed in a 400 is 3.5 at Millbrook and 3.6 at Bruntingthorpe (different surfaces) - that's four tenths quicker than my 3R time. So the road tester in the States should, theoretically, be able to do a straight three!
Somehow I doubt it, though. Mass and traction start to become far more of an issue than outright power and technique when your chasing these hyper-quick times.
Simon Hucknall
Press Officer
Noble Automotive Ltd.
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