Vauxhall v. Lamborghini
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Anyone read the V10 shootout article in this months EVO magazine on the M5 v. Lambo Gallardo?
Check out the stats. The Lambo was timed @ 4.7 secs. to 60mph & 10.0 secs. to 100mph.
Autocar timed my car @ 4.6 secs. to 60mph & 10.0 secs. to 100mph.
Now my car was modded/supercharged in 2001 using LS1 Edit, tuning has moved on in leaps & bounds since then & costs have dropped.
Got me thinking when I saw a 05 reg. delivery milege Monaro in Autocar this week for £23k, what would it cost to mod. it to a similar spec. as my HSV. £20k or less maybe?
0 to 60mph times could not be vastly improved due to traction, but I reckon you could shave a bit of the 0 to 100mph time. Pomona & V8 HSV's cars would be quicker I'm sure & Monaro's should be more aerodynamic than the saloons.
So a c.£43k,Monaro, which would be a practical everyday car, as my HSV has been for the past 3.5yrs, out pacing a Lambo. Nice!
Sure the Lambo would be faster on a twisty road & the sense of occasion would be more etc. But the price, servicing & depreciation etc. on the Lambo.is considerably more. Bet the Monaro would be just as much fun if not more!
Hope to read about more Supercharged or Turbo Monaro's on this forum soon. Has to be one of the performance bargains of the year!
>> Edited by A57 HSV on Thursday 15th September 14:05
Check out the stats. The Lambo was timed @ 4.7 secs. to 60mph & 10.0 secs. to 100mph.
Autocar timed my car @ 4.6 secs. to 60mph & 10.0 secs. to 100mph.
Now my car was modded/supercharged in 2001 using LS1 Edit, tuning has moved on in leaps & bounds since then & costs have dropped.
Got me thinking when I saw a 05 reg. delivery milege Monaro in Autocar this week for £23k, what would it cost to mod. it to a similar spec. as my HSV. £20k or less maybe?
0 to 60mph times could not be vastly improved due to traction, but I reckon you could shave a bit of the 0 to 100mph time. Pomona & V8 HSV's cars would be quicker I'm sure & Monaro's should be more aerodynamic than the saloons.
So a c.£43k,Monaro, which would be a practical everyday car, as my HSV has been for the past 3.5yrs, out pacing a Lambo. Nice!
Sure the Lambo would be faster on a twisty road & the sense of occasion would be more etc. But the price, servicing & depreciation etc. on the Lambo.is considerably more. Bet the Monaro would be just as much fun if not more!
Hope to read about more Supercharged or Turbo Monaro's on this forum soon. Has to be one of the performance bargains of the year!
>> Edited by A57 HSV on Thursday 15th September 14:05
Hi Tom,
I am picking my car up on Saturday and the results sound promising - wheelspin at 40mph in 4th gear!
By my limited knowledge -
Supercharger for at least 550 about £6k
Full AP set up £2.5K
Rip shifter £550
Suspension (fully adjustable) £2500 - £3000
Exhaust and headers £2000
Other bits £1000 - £2000
Stonking machine for the same money as brand new VXR?
These are figures I know people have paid/charged.
Want to meet next week?
I am picking my car up on Saturday and the results sound promising - wheelspin at 40mph in 4th gear!
By my limited knowledge -
Supercharger for at least 550 about £6k
Full AP set up £2.5K
Rip shifter £550
Suspension (fully adjustable) £2500 - £3000
Exhaust and headers £2000
Other bits £1000 - £2000
Stonking machine for the same money as brand new VXR?
These are figures I know people have paid/charged.
Want to meet next week?
Hi Sean, You might need a different diff. & I have a diff. oil cooler as well, but that shouldn't cost a fortune. So £20k is a realistic figure then! Still a lot of cash but what else can you buy new with the same performance/practicality & 4 big seats.
Hope we can meet next week, but I've got to get to London to pick up the replacement Aero estate & have a funeral to attend, so might have to be the following week! But I'll call you on Mon. to arrange a time.
Hope we can meet next week, but I've got to get to London to pick up the replacement Aero estate & have a funeral to attend, so might have to be the following week! But I'll call you on Mon. to arrange a time.
[quote]Non supercharge 6.0 VXR with mild tune and 3.46 rear diff. 0-60 4.88 secs 3 up with half tank of fuel. 0-100 in tad over 10.[/quote]
Should be on the button with just the driver then! Imagine it with a S/Charger or Turbo! Watch out Italian supercars.
My childish sense of humor finds the thought of a Vauxhall badged car out-performing serious supercars most amusing.
Should be on the button with just the driver then! Imagine it with a S/Charger or Turbo! Watch out Italian supercars.
My childish sense of humor finds the thought of a Vauxhall badged car out-performing serious supercars most amusing.
They wouldn't be happy would they!
My car is in a very mild state of tune, with stock internals & low bar, which has suited me fine as it is very user friendly & economic. But I've noticed that it seems to be really quick between 100-150mph (where Legal of course) compared to other fast cars.
It would be a good read if a mag. like EVO compared a fully modded S/C Monaro v. a bunch of supercars & the M5 etc. & timed them between 100-150mph as well as the normal stats. My money would be on the Monaro, despite the obvious Aerodynamic advantages of the other cars.
My car is in a very mild state of tune, with stock internals & low bar, which has suited me fine as it is very user friendly & economic. But I've noticed that it seems to be really quick between 100-150mph (where Legal of course) compared to other fast cars.
It would be a good read if a mag. like EVO compared a fully modded S/C Monaro v. a bunch of supercars & the M5 etc. & timed them between 100-150mph as well as the normal stats. My money would be on the Monaro, despite the obvious Aerodynamic advantages of the other cars.
I think you might just be ignoring the handling and traction advantage of the Lambo in a straight comparison. A Corvette Z06 would obliterate the Lambo's times anyway with 60 in low 4's and 100 in well under 10 plus you get the handling and Z06's are under £30k now. They don't have 4 seats though.
From Clarkson's review of the M5, I imagine the Monaro is a better buy for 99% of the time.
From Clarkson's review of the M5, I imagine the Monaro is a better buy for 99% of the time.
[quote]I think you might just be ignoring the handling and traction advantage of the Lambo in a straight comparison. A Corvette Z06 would obliterate the Lambo's times anyway with 60 in low 4's and 100 in well under 10 plus you get the handling and Z06's are under £30k now. They don't have 4 seats though.
From Clarkson's review of the M5, I imagine the Monaro is a better buy for 99% of the time.[/quote]
Very true, of course the AWD of the Lambo will give it superior straight line traction, it has a few other advantages as well, but so it should have for £70-80K more than a modded Monaro.
No doubt about the ZO6's speed either, although a well modded Monaro should handle very nicely,just look how the motoring press rave about the handling of standard cars.
Always admire your enthusiam for Corvettes. But the same can be said about the many other 2 seater cars that are faster & cheaper than the Lambo., TVR's & Noble's etc. etc.
But this is a forum for HSV's & Monaro's hence my reference to the Monaro & not these other marques!
From Clarkson's review of the M5, I imagine the Monaro is a better buy for 99% of the time.[/quote]
Very true, of course the AWD of the Lambo will give it superior straight line traction, it has a few other advantages as well, but so it should have for £70-80K more than a modded Monaro.
No doubt about the ZO6's speed either, although a well modded Monaro should handle very nicely,just look how the motoring press rave about the handling of standard cars.
Always admire your enthusiam for Corvettes. But the same can be said about the many other 2 seater cars that are faster & cheaper than the Lambo., TVR's & Noble's etc. etc.
But this is a forum for HSV's & Monaro's hence my reference to the Monaro & not these other marques!
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