Speed limiter defeat device

[350Matt]

so then peeps
As we probably all know from the end of next month, all new cars will come with speed limiters that you can over-ride by pressing that bit harder on the go pedal
I've little doubt this 'reckless' behaviour will be accompanied by a relentless series of bings and bongs and electronic voices saying 'caution' or 'danger ' every 4 seconds

I'm sure most will find this utterly maddening
so how to disable this 'feature' ?

surely some enterprising soul will dream up a plug in OBD port device to shut it up ?
Or does something already exist ?

[MikeM6]

350Matt said:

so then peeps
As we probably all know from the end of next month, all new cars will come with speed limiters that you can over-ride by pressing that bit harder on the go pedal
I've little doubt this 'reckless' behaviour will be accompanied by a relentless series of bings and bongs and electronic voices saying 'caution' or 'danger ' every 4 seconds

I'm sure most will find this utterly maddening
so how to disable this 'feature' ?

surely some enterprising soul will dream up a plug in OBD port device to shut it up ?
Or does something already exist ?

I think it can be turned off still, but the real solution is to not buy a new car.

Be environmentally kind and buy an older car. It's what I did, so I can now flaunt my green credentials in my 18 year old car which does have a limited but only at 155mph.

[Whataguy]

Depends if it’s getting the speed limits from a camera mounted on the windscreen. Sometimes the same one for lane keep assist,etc.

When I had a car with it in winter it was disabled while the camera was misted up until it cleared.

[Krikkit]

MikeM6 said:

Be environmentally kind and buy an older car. It's what I did, so I can now flaunt my green credentials in my 18 year old car which does have a limited but only at 155mph.

Just a shame it's not more environmentally friendly

[blank]

You can turn it off, but the regulation demands something like a minimum of 2 actions, so it won't be a one press button. And it will be active again on the next ignition cycle.

On some brands, it might be possible to tweak coding to make it stay off after cycling the ignition. This would be using some sort of diagnostic tool as you suggest. VW Group is most likely for this to be possible as it's currently possible with the lane assist system (i.e. change the coding so it doesn't come back on every time). Although they do seem to be locking more and more things down.

Oh and I don't think anyone is fitting limiters yet, just warnings. The regulation allows either.

This is a good summary of how the systems work:
https://www.interregs.com/articles/spotlight/236/e...

Edited by blank on Wednesday 12th June 22:01

[CoolHands]

You will comply

[FMOB]

You need some sticky tape over the camera on the windscreen and some shorter wiper blade so the tape won't get lifted by the wipers going over it paint.

[zippy3x]

The world is run by money, the only way to stop this sh!t is to stop buying new cars.

I think you'll be surprised how quickly these systems are found to be "ineffective" and "not worth pursuing" when the corporate bank balances start to suffer.

[andy43]

I coded out stop start and a few other things on an Audi I had - the speed nonsense will be EU only so theoretically it should be the same easily accessible stuff that’s not mandatory for all markets.
I wouldn’t touch one of these 2024 cars unless I knew it was either a simple one or two button press to switch the bongs off on every drive, or if I knew it could be coded out permanently.

[MB140]

Problem is, all these cars nowadays can be updated over the air. I believe the new Yaris gr has something about this in the terms and conditions of purchase.

I’m sure I saw it posted on here somewhere.

Go to sleep one night happy as Larry, wake up the next day and you’re very expensive super quick sports (imagine a Ferrari or Lamborghini) car is as fast as a corsa and gets blown away by an old Astra. You would be very very pissed off

[Terminator X]

I plan to disable it by never buying a car that has it. If sales are killed dead perhaps they may rethink.

TX.

[Whataguy]

Terminator X said:

I plan to disable it by never buying a car that has it. If sales are killed dead perhaps they may rethink.

TX.

I’d heard of someone rejecting a 2024 Toyota because of the warning system, and the poor way it’s been implemented, if enough people do this then the manufacturers will have to do something.

The speedometer isn’t that accurate and the system misreads the speed limits regularly.

[Debaser]

The decision to implement these systems wasn’t made by manufacturers. They are mandatory.

I doubt the decision makers care if new car sales are affected.

[Cold]

Krikkit said:

MikeM6 said:

Be environmentally kind and buy an older car. It's what I did, so I can now flaunt my green credentials in my 18 year old car which does have a limited but only at 155mph.

Just a shame it's not more environmentally friendly

We used to be told that reusing something was top tier of environmental friendliness.

[MikeM6]

Cold said:

Krikkit said:

MikeM6 said:

Be environmentally kind and buy an older car. It's what I did, so I can now flaunt my green credentials in my 18 year old car which does have a limited but only at 155mph.

Just a shame it's not more environmentally friendly

We used to be told that reusing something was top tier of environmental friendliness.

I must learn that humour doesn't work here

[MrTrilby]

Cold said:

Krikkit said:

MikeM6 said:

Be environmentally kind and buy an older car. It's what I did, so I can now flaunt my green credentials in my 18 year old car which does have a limited but only at 155mph.

Just a shame it's not more environmentally friendly

We used to be told that reusing something was top tier of environmental friendliness.

Yup. Refusing to drive something that is polluting is the top tier of environmentally friendly - hence the push to encourage more walking, cycling and public transport use where possible.

[vikingaero]

Whataguy said:

Terminator X said:

I plan to disable it by never buying a car that has it. If sales are killed dead perhaps they may rethink.

TX.

I’d heard of someone rejecting a 2024 Toyota because of the warning system, and the poor way it’s been implemented, if enough people do this then the manufacturers will have to do something.

The speedometer isn’t that accurate and the system misreads the speed limits regularly.

There's a lane near me that is marked as 20mph when you approach on a 60mph NSL road. However some of the residents have angled the 20mph signs to 30-45 degrees so that it is visible from the NSL road. And guess what? You cars speed advisory limiter/indicator then picks up 20mph. If it were the mandatory limiters it would brake you down to 20mph and the guy behind without this tech would rear end you.

[Byker28i]

MikeM6 said:

I think it can be turned off still, but the real solution is to not buy a new car.

Be environmentally kind and buy an older car. It's what I did, so I can now flaunt my green credentials in my 18 year old car which does have a limited but only at 155mph.

Mine is limited to around 190mph, but it is accompanied with beeps from the rev limiter

[vikingaero]

Byker28i said:

MikeM6 said:

I think it can be turned off still, but the real solution is to not buy a new car.

Be environmentally kind and buy an older car. It's what I did, so I can now flaunt my green credentials in my 18 year old car which does have a limited but only at 155mph.

Mine is limited to around 190mph, but it is accompanied with beeps from the rev limiter

The advisory speed limiters on both my cars use a camera behind the rear view mirror. Despite being in the swept area of the wipers, it fails to operate in heavy rain, dark, fog, or with a combo of oncoming vehicles headlights. So it could just get covered up... by a leaf...

[TSS]

I had a new Taycan on loan which made a silly little noise every time the speed limit was exceeded. On that car it was possible to program one of the 2 programmable buttons to turn this off. So it could be disabled with one button press rather than hunting through menus every time.

The lane departure bks on that car was downright dangerous though...