Any National Insurance experts?
Any National Insurance experts?
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audi321

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237 months

Thursday 13th June 2024
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My son is 16 and going into 6th form in September, but I believe the credits for education were stopped in 2011?

He has a part time job and has options for hours to work. These options will mean that he has the ability to earn between £120 and £140 a week.

From reading the HMRC website, under the lower limit of £123 a week, he gets no NI credit, but between £123 and £242 a week, you 'seem' to get NI credit without actually paying any NI?

Is that right? And if so, should he make sure he earns at least £124 a week? Is there any benefit of earning more as far as NI is concerned? i.e. once you get NI credit, then you've hit the threshold and earning more doesn't make a difference?

Thanks all for any clarification. It's complicated to say the least!

Eric Mc

124,962 posts

289 months

Thursday 13th June 2024
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Yes - you get a "credit" to your NI record once your gross weekly salary exceeds the Lower Earnings Limit - which is currently £123 per week (£523 per month/£6,396 per annum).


NI contributions do not go into a "pot" from which you later withdraw your state pension 60 odd years down the line.The contribution amount is not what matters. What matters is that your contribution is recorded as having happened.

In order to receive the Full State Pension, you need to have made 35 years of contributions over your working life.

That does mean that a person can have gaps in their overall contributions record. All that matters is that they have been able to make 35 years.

If you make less than 35 years, you will still get a pension but it won't be the maximum possible.

If you make less than 10 years contributions, you won't get a State Pension at all.

audi321

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237 months

Thursday 13th June 2024
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Thanks Eric very succinct as normal.

So best to earn £124 than £122 then as this potentially can make a huge difference in the 35 years totting up then.

So how many weeks does he need to earn this throughout the year then? Or is it averaged out over the year?

gotoPzero

20,097 posts

213 months

Thursday 13th June 2024
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LEL is 6396. So if you don't tick over in the tax year you don't qualify, as far as I know.

The LEL can change from time to time, so its worth checking at the start of each tax year.

audi321

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237 months

Thursday 13th June 2024
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Ah gotcha so it’s an annual LEL not just £123 a week (although it average out at that).